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Cargo Cult Science (1974)

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Out of all the experiments in the soft sciences that captured society’s imagination, one of the most egregious is “Power Posing”.[0] The idea is that you stand like a superhero in front of a mirror and all of these measurable chemical changes happen that improve your abilities.

The professor that discovered this phenomena had a famous TED talk, a bestselling book, switched her faculty position to Harvard, and basically rode that to success in her professional and public life.[1]

All of this came crashing down when no one could replicate her experiments. It’s absolutely incredible that things got this far in science, or at least the soft sciences. Shameful

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_posing

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Cuddy

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Experiments that attempt to create AGI singularities by just making huge neural networks strike me as cargo cult science.

There are people attempting to develop superhuman artificial general intelligence by making a single large neural network?

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> there have been many experiments running rats through all kinds of mazes, and so on—with little clear result. But in 1937 a man named Young did a very interesting one.

Has anyone found this paper? I searched a few years ago and couldn't find anything.

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> there have been many experiments running rats through all kinds of mazes, and so on—with little clear result. But in 1937 a man named Young did a very interesting one. Has anyone found this paper? I searched a few years ago and couldn't find anything.

Me neither, and for this reason I tend to use this paper to see who pays attention. Best case: someone tracks down the missing paper(s).

I suspect it may be a joke Feynman played on us to prove a point. :)

Good catch.

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Many previous submissions; the ones with comments:

2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13290107

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11669004

2013: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6543791

2010: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1629571

2009: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=993150

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=723140

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post #2

Out of all the experiments in the soft sciences that captured society’s imagination, one of the most egregious is “Power Posing”.[0] The idea is that you stand like a superhero in front of a mirror and all of these measurable chemical changes happen that improve your abilities. The professor that discovered this phenomena had a famous TED talk, a bestselling book, switched her faculty position to Harvard, and basical…

There are more subtle variations on this that still affect the harder sciences.

A topic closer to home for most of us might be benchmarking. It is terribly difficult to construct an honest A/B comparison between two different algorithms, especially when the person doing the testing designed B themselves.

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> there have been many experiments running rats through all kinds of mazes, and so on—with little clear result. But in 1937 a man named Young did a very interesting one. Has anyone found this paper? I searched a few years ago and couldn't find anything.

Paul Thomas Young

obit: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1421573

rat paper still missing

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