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New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by saagarjha »

machinelearning wrote: post #24
tlarkworthy wrote: post #9

I expect sugar will turn out to be good for your brain (in moderation) and increase your IQ.

Yea it is quite interesting how the 'invisible hand' seems to have branded sugar as a 'drug, akin to cocaine' since it signals dopamine in the brain. Refined sugar is nothing but sucrose, a natural compound found in plants and fruits. Surely not all dopamine signalling is bad, just bad/prolonged signalling. Sure, it does cause an insulin spike that causes insulin resistance in the long term but in selective use of bl…

> a natural compound found in plants and fruits

So is cyanide and ricin.

Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by pazimzadeh »

differentView wrote: post #23
tlarkworthy wrote: post #9

I expect sugar will turn out to be good for your brain (in moderation) and increase your IQ.

Can you provide link to any such research? Even ones funded by the sugar industry?

Not quite the same thing, but glucose is the main source of energy for the brain. It's just that refined sugar is usually not how you get your glucose. But sure, eating sugar might give you a temporary boost in IQ - before the crash.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22436/

Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

asdf21 wrote: post #14
tobylane wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d like to see lower carbon cost become an important goal of keto dieters. Eggs, fish, etc count for keto as I understand it. I don’t like the fetishisation of red meat.

I hope farmed fish has a low carbon cost because I'm not trying to poison myself with mercury.

Farmed salmon is often high in mercury[1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsbtit20DLo

Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by leovander »

sleavey wrote: post #4

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Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

queercode wrote: post #29

How about "eat no meat regardless of nutritional value (unless absolutely necessary) because it's unethical to do so"?

There is nothing unethical about eating meat.

Now, the factory farming methods you see and the treatment of the animals being raised for meat, is definitely unethical.

Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by thrower123 »

codr7 wrote: post #33
thrower123 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to be fit, the best results I've had are to eat meat and vegetables, and not much else. Going fully vegetarian is just too joyless.

You need to eat animal corpses to feel happy? Could be worse, I guess. It's perfectly possible to cook great food with and without meat and dairy. But change is difficult, especially after clinging to this kind of BS for a while.

If your ethics require it, fine. I've got no such hang ups.

It's vastly easier to have a balanced diet if you don't restrict yourself from high-quality sources of nutrition.

Re: New research questions the evidence for health benefits of eating less red meat

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Post by machinelearning »

saagarjha wrote: post #41
machinelearning wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea it is quite interesting how the 'invisible hand' seems to have branded sugar as a 'drug, akin to cocaine' since it signals dopamine in the brain. Refined sugar is nothing but sucrose, a natural compound found in plants and fruits. Surely not all dopamine signalling is bad, just bad/prolonged signalling. Sure, it does cause an insulin spike that causes insulin resistance in the long term but in selective use of bl…

> a natural compound found in plants and fruits So is cyanide and ricin.

Is cyanide/ricin used by the body for energy and/or ubiquitous in nature?
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