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Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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This is natural selection at work. Stack Exchange has become a frustrating site to use. "Closed as duplicate: different and unrelated question" reopen further explaining the question and how its not related "Closed as duplicate: the first question that was immediately closed with no replies" OR! Google around, find SE link on issue, everybody is arguing about why the user wants to do it that why, convinces them to do…

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Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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Is there any detail anywhere about why Monica Cellio was fired? Will no one leak the internal chat that was supposedly the justification for her firing?

All I can see online is everyone vaguely talking around the issue.

Make the facts public and let people decide for themselves.

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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About 90% of the time it is an XY problem, though. A couple clarifying questions and it turns out the OP really needed something much simpler. For example, people who insist they can’t use a Laravel package because of “performance”, but it turns out they just don’t know how the composer autoloader works.

No... Just answer the question. You’re not there to babysit the question asker or convince them to change their approach/hair style/choice of library. I know it’s frustrating to see people doing something wrong, or that you don’t agree with, but you know what you can do? Just... don’t get involved if you can’t answer the actual question that was asked, and if it’s a bad question, let it die a natural death.

You can actually do both. Indeed, the most popular and heavily upvoted answers on SO tend to do just that, in the form of "here's the answer to the question you asked, and btw, I think this other thing here might be a better way to go about solving your broader problem and maybe avoiding the issue in your question altogether!".

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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How is that acceptable? People need to be paid for working.

There is a lot of "work" that goes unpaid. House work. Internships. And many artist work for free in order to get exposure.

> Internships. And many artist work for free in order to get exposure.

Both of those (assuming the work is for for-profit companies) are controversial as well.

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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> There's a lot of flouncing resignations and "we need to talk" style essays also revealing little of substance. I feel similarly, I've read all of Monica Cellio's posts and still have no real idea what is going on. Lot's of talk of DMs and messages and emails, but nothing concrete posted, just he said / she said, all while alleging personal innocence and purity. If there is some concrete evidence and examples, put u…

Well, they were internally discussing a proposed Code of Conduct. I imagine mods are bound by an NDA, and management are choosing not to share.

Ah. Very frustrating to read complaints that omit key info. Would have been nice if they explained that they're under an NDA.

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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Reading between the lines, it looks like a queer mod felt unsupported by SE over a long period of time, and SE eventually decided to make a code of conduct change. These mods disagreed with that change (some using language like "thought crime") which precipitated their resignations?

> reading between the lines

The lines here are so blurry, I can’t make heads or tails out of any of this. All I can tell for sure is that some of the mods are upset about something (but won’t or can’t say what) and they’re leaving SO. The forced abstraction of this whole saga reminds me of stories I’ve heard from people who lived under communist dictatorships: they’d have to peel back multiple layers of insinuations to try to figure out what was actually meant. The way some of the commenters on here are dancing around saying anything concrete suggests that there are a few people who do know what’s going on but are afraid to come out and say what it is.

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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I guess everyone sees the issue from their own point of view, of which there are many, and there isn’t one magic bullet to solve them all. I stopped participating because of the push to be more “welcoming”, even to those that put “it’s happening to me too, what I do???” as answers or those that can’t be bothered to search for anything, just want a solution HERE AND NOW. SO used to be a lot more strict than it is now,…

> I stopped participating because of the push to be more “welcoming” Because it's somehow hard to be welcoming? I guess it is for some people and now instead of a snarky comment they're just voting down, making everyone feel much better (/s). > as answers or those that can’t be bothered to search for anything, just want a solution HERE AND NOW. If only privileged users on SO closed such questions, but they don't. Peo…

Way to get what I said out of context. You are just as bad HN user as a SO user. Cry some more.

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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Who am I oppressing exactly? By downvoting, am I oppressing the asking person? That’s ridiculous. Why does everyone insist on being so weak-minded?

You're literally invalidating all the effort put into the question with a single downvote without consequence to you. How do you not see that? Don't try to process more question volume that you can adequately rate, it isn't that hard. The path to hell is paved with good intentions (to make SO a better knowledge site).

I always leave a comment why I voted this way or the other, unless there is already a comment that explains why the vote is in progress. If I vote the other way, I leave a comment explaining why.

Re: A large number of Stack Exchange mods resigning over new policies

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> I stopped participating because of the push to be more “welcoming” Because it's somehow hard to be welcoming? I guess it is for some people and now instead of a snarky comment they're just voting down, making everyone feel much better (/s). > as answers or those that can’t be bothered to search for anything, just want a solution HERE AND NOW. If only privileged users on SO closed such questions, but they don't. Peo…

Way to get what I said out of context. You are just as bad HN user as a SO user. Cry some more.

What did I get out of context? Or do you just feel finally called out?
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