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One upon a time an evil file might be called 'vader' or 'skynet'. Now harry potter fans are senior enough to decide on project names. I feel old.

I think it's also that the "he who shall not be named" aspect here isn't shared by Vader or skynet

There is always Hastur; Him Who Is Not to be Named. Oh shit, I did it!

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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If a President were caught in a lie, would the "Trusted" status be removed? If not, what would the "Trusted" status even mean?

“Lie” is too strict. Everyone is caught making false statements. Everyone would get “distrusted.”

> Everyone is caught making false statements

That is too postmodern for my tastes. I would strongly argue that one can speak without making false statements, and would be very much in favor of some sort of fact-checking badge on social media. It would be difficult, but I really believe it would be worth it.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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"Verified" ceased to be meaningful as actual verification as soon as "unverified" became a thing. I think making it a brand-coloured tick conveyed too much of a positive message so people took it as an endorsement, leading to pressure to "unverify" if that person did or said something bad. Given that action, the "verified" tick then becomes an even stronger signal of endorsement. Perhaps it would be better to call th…

They have painted themselves into a corner with this feature. They cannot call it "partners" because you cannot claim to have a partnership with, say, the US Navy and the President of Iran (both "ticked" in Twitter) nor give them revenue kickbacks, and yet, it's not really an ID verification if you "de-verify" people for their political or commercial stance. AFAIK Twitter is so confused by this conundrum that they ju…

And those who lose that status, for whatever reason, will be the "ticked off" accounts.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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> They should change what they call verified to another label like “goodie two-shoes” instead. I agree with your main point. On a tangent: I'm not sure "goodie two-shoes" is quite the right term. I would argue that by helping to expose illegal actions by the U.S. government, Assange was a poster child for "goodies two-shoes".

I kind of get your point, but generally speaking a goodie two-shoes doesn’t rock the boat and is more of a pleaser (to authority).

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Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Twitter started this whole thing. Originally, IIRC, "Verified" meant exactly that. You look at a twitter account of a Celebrity or CEO or poltician, and the blue check meant it was really them.

Now it means it's really them _and_ they haven't said or done anything that the wrong people find offensive. Comedians get de-verified (or kicked off) for offending people if they offend the wrong people. (While others who do equally horrible things -- like when Spike Lee tweeted the address of a completely innocent and uninvolved person asking people to harass and threaten them, he was not removed or de-verified https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/spike-lees-defense... )

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Twitter started this whole thing. Originally, IIRC, "Verified" meant exactly that. You look at a twitter account of a Celebrity or CEO or poltician, and the blue check meant it was really them. Now it means it's really them _and_ they haven't said or done anything that the wrong people find offensive. Comedians get de-verified (or kicked off) for offending people if they offend the wrong people. (While others who do…

It’s really them and they don’t belong to KKK?

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Lie” is too strict. Everyone is caught making false statements. Everyone would get “distrusted.”

> Everyone is caught making false statements That is too postmodern for my tastes. I would strongly argue that one can speak without making false statements, and would be very much in favor of some sort of fact-checking badge on social media. It would be difficult, but I really believe it would be worth it.

Who watches the watchers?

So far pretty much every fact checking organization, regardless of original intent, eventually succumbs to the temptation to bend their fact checking to their ideological preference.

There is no social media company that has the credibility to even be taken seriously as a impartial arbiter of fact.

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This “verified” nonsense is silly. Twitter knew who Assange was but refused to “verify” him. They should change what they call verified to another label like “goodie two-shoes” instead. As it is is a complete misnomer. It’s basically used to get users to behave a certain way and if they don’t conform they don’t get verified or if they are verified it gets revoked.

Youtube recently decided to change their requirements to become verified. They emailed existing verified users that they no longer meet these requirements and therefore will loose the "verified" status. Completely insane.

MXR mods had this exact problem on youtube.
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