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We must cut out meat and dairy before dinner to save the planet

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Re: We must cut out meat and dairy before dinner to save the planet

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Nice how the upper classes want the pleb to give up meet, but the discussion is kept away from air travel being terrible for the environment. Thanks, I'll have my daily 400g meat.

We must all do what we can. There isn’t time for petulance.

Re: We must cut out meat and dairy before dinner to save the planet

#7

Nice how the upper classes want the pleb to give up meet, but the discussion is kept away from air travel being terrible for the environment. Thanks, I'll have my daily 400g meat.

We must all do what we can. There isn’t time for petulance.

That's a rather emotive argument.

Do you have any evidence to back it up, that reducing the air travel and other extravagances wouldn't be sufficient, but that we need to give up daily pleasures?

To me, it sounds like restricting drinking water to fight the drought in California: useless, gesture actions which target the daily lives of people, causing annoyance -- while allowing almond farmers (and others) to continue the real problem, without challenge.

If climate change is actually a serious problem (and I think it is), then its time for people to stop promoting emotive witch-doctor solutions (such as restricting drinking water in restaurants to fight a drought) and start taking a serious, data-driven look at causes.

Re: We must cut out meat and dairy before dinner to save the planet

#9

Nice how the upper classes want the pleb to give up meet, but the discussion is kept away from air travel being terrible for the environment. Thanks, I'll have my daily 400g meat.

Just one example: cruise ships for Carnival alone — not to even mention all the other cruise lines — pollute 10 times more than all the cars in Europe combined [1]. I’ve seen plenty of thinkpieces about not eating meat, but approximately zero about not taking cruises. Curious!

[1] https://www.thedrive.com/news/28469/carnival-cruise-ship-fle...

Re: We must cut out meat and dairy before dinner to save the planet

#10

Nice how the upper classes want the pleb to give up meet, but the discussion is kept away from air travel being terrible for the environment. Thanks, I'll have my daily 400g meat.

From the article: “Animal agriculture produces more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire transportation sector (all planes, cars and trains), and is the primary source of methane and nitrous oxide emissions (which are 86 and 310 times more powerful than CO2, respectively).”
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