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Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
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Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#422The idea that moves like this will "keep us safe" is utterly preposterous; there are a multitude of other ways in which terrorists (or the boogeyman de jour ) could communicate - are the UK and US governments going to insist on backdooring IRC, Slack and face-to-face conversations? Are they going to outlaw encryption libraries? I truely fear for the future that western governments, in particular the 5 eyes members, a…
IRC clients are largely open source. How do we know they haven't been backdoored?
I think you answered the second part of your post with the first didnt you? Get the source and compile it yourself.
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#423We were surprised to read this story and are not aware of discussions that would force us to change our product. We believe people have a fundamental right to have private conversations. End-to-end encryption protects that right for over a billion people every day. We will always oppose government attempts to build backdoors because they would weaken the security of everyone who uses WhatsApp including governments th…
Do you currently have any backdoors installed?
We do not.
You don't have to take our word on this -- I wouldn't want you to. As others on this thread have pointed out it's possible enough to tear through our binaries that if we did have a backdoor it would be discovered.
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#424We were surprised to read this story and are not aware of discussions that would force us to change our product. We believe people have a fundamental right to have private conversations. End-to-end encryption protects that right for over a billion people every day. We will always oppose government attempts to build backdoors because they would weaken the security of everyone who uses WhatsApp including governments th…
If so, sounds like someone from FB Legal and the SEC should have Words with Bloomberg. Wouldn't be the first time they've intentionally maliciously misrepresented/lied about an infosec issue to the detriment of a company in order to move the market (Supermicro "grain of rice"...)
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#425We were surprised to read this story and are not aware of discussions that would force us to change our product. We believe people have a fundamental right to have private conversations. End-to-end encryption protects that right for over a billion people every day. We will always oppose government attempts to build backdoors because they would weaken the security of everyone who uses WhatsApp including governments th…
Is it true for US or for every country? How does WhatsApp legally operate in Russia?
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#426I have long stopped using American social media for anything. I think everyone else should do the same.
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#427The idea that moves like this will "keep us safe" is utterly preposterous; there are a multitude of other ways in which terrorists (or the boogeyman de jour ) could communicate - are the UK and US governments going to insist on backdooring IRC, Slack and face-to-face conversations? Are they going to outlaw encryption libraries? I truely fear for the future that western governments, in particular the 5 eyes members, a…
The keeping safe argument from government is indeed preposterous. As if that was their mission to keep us safe. Why are they allowing our nature to be destroyed in favor of money/economy? This years heatwaves killed many thousands of people in Europe only, some estimates are in the tens of thousands. This is real deaths in 1 year, not because of terrorist attacks, no fucking backdoor will stop this. And what are they…
> As if that was their mission to keep us safe.
I think it is. The problem is, denying us access to safe communication is not going to make is more safe, but less.
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#428Why is this article Facebook focused? Is this click-bait? Telegraph and iMessage also support unbreakable end to end encryption. Also, if we're talking backdoors, why not just force Apple to unlock devices so that police can just read the messages in WhatsApp directly? That's something I could get behind as it means the intelligence community has to at least have the physical device on hand. Do people have actual lin…
> [...] has to at least have the physical device on hand.
not really since most of them are connected 24/7
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
Signal may or may not be ok at the moment, but not in a couple of years (it has all the power to silently push an update with a backdoor). Among all the popular messaging apps only Telegram is in a position to not cooperate with five eyes.
Sure, but the Signal source code is open source. I've been compiling it myself for years on Android (and signing the binary with my own key). They can't silently push a binary from the Play Store and overwrite my binary.
Dude, I can only imagine what you are doing that you need to be so secretive lol
Re: Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.?
#430Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not the question if you have something to hide or not but once they have unlimited access like this, what is stopping them from manufacturing truth and bend the information to support their biases. Privacy IMO is more important.
Could you elaborate in the link between unlimited access and manufacturing truth?
If I don't have access to your conversation and people know this, but I claim that I know you said something in such a conversation, people can ask how I know it and demand proof.
If your conversations aren't encrypted and I have access to them, and people know this, then if I claim that you said a certain something in such a conversation, people are more likely to just believe me.
Also, unencrypted data is data that can be altered by a third party.