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An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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I think it's situations like this that result in society having such a hard time with 'science'. The term has been so heavily co-opted by fields that just don't have sufficient rigger for the term to hold weight. Yet, on various topics, we have this publicized attack of "your a science denier!". At the end of the day, there are two 'types' of science, one where I can take the results and make accurate predictions, an…

Another thing that needs to stop is the over use of the word "theory" where "hypothesis" is more accurate. But everyone want to be a scientist with big ideas.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather not be classified as insane, thanks. If you read the OP article, the research suggests religion has positive effects on children. Your response to the corrected findings?

> I'd rather not be classified as insane, thanks. What would I be classified as if I started worshipping, say, Thanos, and began preaching to everyone about him? > the research suggests religion has positive effects on children. Your response to the corrected findings? If it was safe for me to do so, my response would be to go out in my own religious country and film for you all the children throwing stones at animal…

Given the context, I would classify you as insincere.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Interesting, waitstaff on reddit always say religious people tip worse or not at all.

Probably because most religious people don't tend to flaunt it everywhere they go, and in my experience the ones that do also tend to be jerks. It's also possible that wait staff tend to remember the ones that do more than the ones that don't because being religious and a jerk is more memorable than religious and not a jerk. Disclaimer: I am a religious person.

I worked in breakfast and brunch restaurants for a while, and my anecdotal experience is that the post-church rushes (we were across the street from a couple churches) had the worst overall tipping percentages that I would see all week.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Releasing your data should be a requirement for publication. If the original author had wanted to keep this a secret he could've withheld his data and nobody would've been able to correct him, there simply would've been discrepant studies.

I see where you're coming from, but would the subjects be comfortable with all their data becoming public?

Anonymizing data is, yes, a difficult problem, but in particular aggregated data can, and has been, reliably anonymized. For example, the problem with this dataset would have been visible in aggregated data (e.g. aggregated by nationality).

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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post #42

I think it's situations like this that result in society having such a hard time with 'science'. The term has been so heavily co-opted by fields that just don't have sufficient rigger for the term to hold weight. Yet, on various topics, we have this publicized attack of "your a science denier!". At the end of the day, there are two 'types' of science, one where I can take the results and make accurate predictions, an…

Perhaps the real problem is that reality does not punish being wrong and reward being right enough.

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Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Psychology, sociology and theology (and more logys?) was never meant to be sciences. We can blame the enlightenment for that idea, let’s revert them back to renaissance activities

Psychology and sociology can be made as rigorous as individuals & institutions care to. Theology, not so much.

Actually most of the (christian) theology (when discussed by theologists) within its confines is very rigorous.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd rather not be classified as insane, thanks. What would I be classified as if I started worshipping, say, Thanos, and began preaching to everyone about him? > the research suggests religion has positive effects on children. Your response to the corrected findings? If it was safe for me to do so, my response would be to go out in my own religious country and film for you all the children throwing stones at animal…

Given the context, I would classify you as insincere.

What context? Insincere how? I do strongly like a few deities from various fictions. I would gladly eat your ear off about them.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather not be classified as insane, thanks. If you read the OP article, the research suggests religion has positive effects on children. Your response to the corrected findings?

> I'd rather not be classified as insane, thanks. What would I be classified as if I started worshipping, say, Thanos, and began preaching to everyone about him? > the research suggests religion has positive effects on children. Your response to the corrected findings? If it was safe for me to do so, my response would be to go out in my own religious country and film for you all the children throwing stones at animal…

add: the many other problems that religion is supposed to fix, but it actually produces them or makes them worse.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because most religious people don't tend to flaunt it everywhere they go, and in my experience the ones that do also tend to be jerks. It's also possible that wait staff tend to remember the ones that do more than the ones that don't because being religious and a jerk is more memorable than religious and not a jerk. Disclaimer: I am a religious person.

I worked in breakfast and brunch restaurants for a while, and my anecdotal experience is that the post-church rushes (we were across the street from a couple churches) had the worst overall tipping percentages that I would see all week.

One could argue that those are the folks that aren’t religious enough to feel that they should not make others work on a sabbath as a result their personal commerce. The religious folk that make it rain come in on other days of the week.

Re: An erroneous paper on religion and generosity is retracted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the context, I would classify you as insincere.

What context? Insincere how? I do strongly like a few deities from various fictions. I would gladly eat your ear off about them.

The context is that you clearly believe religion is nonsense, and a destructive force. Therefore if you were to advocate for a religion, you would be either lying or encouraging what you believe to be evil, and therefore evil yourself. Since poverty and ignorance bother you, I think lying would be the more likely explanation.

Liking deities from various fictions is not the same as seeking to open oneself to God.

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