Charts show how little progress has been made in limiting greenhouse emissions

Post by jplayer01 » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 12:11 PM UTC

uoaei wrote: post #69

nostromo wrote: post #66

Actually a lot of progress has been made, except in China, which has increased emissions to the point of reversing all other progress globally. By comparison, US carbon has been going down since 2007, despite a growing population and economy. Per capita it's been declining for over four decades. China now emits more than the US and EU combined, despite having much, much less economic output.

Carbon emitted as a result of manufacturing should count toward the destination country, not the production country. China supplies the world a lot of goods. It doesn't seem appropriate to put the onus on China when the end result of that production run brings all that stuff over to another country.

Post by dang » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 7:12 PM UTC

wtdata wrote: post #135

reitzensteinm wrote: post #134

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We didn't establish anything. You grasped at the density straw in order to intellectually justify your prejudice. The poor in India should increase their emissions, because otherwise they'll die. Life expectancy has risen from 40 to 68 years since the 60s. Would you halve your life expectancy to fix global warming? I don't think so. In any case, the births have already happened, and India is now barely above replacem…

> The poor in India should increase their emissions, because otherwise they'll die. Life expectancy has risen from 40 to 68 years since the 60s. So, you are saying that CO2 emissions are actually good for the population and the way forward is to actually increase them even more. Interesting turn of events from an environmentalist. > You want them to die because of the choices their parents made. Funny thing to say, s…

Post by dang » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 1:39 AM UTC

reitzensteinm wrote: post #144

dang wrote: post #142

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You crossed badly into flamewar in this thread, which breaks the site guidelines regardless of how right you are or feel. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't do that on HN again; it's strictly destructive here, and someone else behaving badly is no justification.

That's fair enough. I knew it was totally against the site guidelines but I couldn't help myself. Honestly, I think you and the other mods could be quicker with the ban hammer even if that means I'm on the chopping block for what I did here. Eg the above account posted this nine days ago, and that was after a previous warning: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995004

Post by dang » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:22 AM UTC

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I agree. The trouble is that we don't see everything that gets posted here; there's too much. So sometimes when there's a repeated pattern of abuse, it takes longer than we would like to notice it. Users can help by flagging comments (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html for how) and by emailing hn@ycombinator.com about egregious cases.

Ah, I specifically picked a comment that had been killed by repeated flagging. I assumed that there'd be a human reviewing by that stage. I've been under the impression for a while that it takes quite a bit more to be banned these days than five years ago, but that might just be nostalgia. Anyway, I know you're volunteers and it's not really appropriate for me to be complaining about the dress code after fighting in…