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Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#41

very interesting and approacheable solution. With regards to: >" Rudder runs as a single go binary with Postgres. It also needs the destination (e.g. GA, Amplitude) specific transformation code which are node scripts. " what would be a recommended approach, if I would like to keep the data internally, and not use external Analytics engine?

We also have a S3 destination so you can just add S3. Support for other data-warehouses (Redshift, Bigquery etc) is coming soon.

Thank you, my understand was that S3 is also 'external' (that's AWS service).

What I was hoping/looking for is something where another tool lightweight tool that can be installed alongside Rudder, that can use PG instance (may be just different db within Rudder's instance or just different schema).

For a light weight, end-to-end solution (including analytics) that can 'grow' with needs.

For many small self-funded startups that care about privacy a combination of following challenges exist:

a) need self-hosted solutions that require minimal footprint (because data, even anonymized, is hosted on self-paid VPS instances )

b) need to use solutions that do not require initial purchase/investment, but yet can scale out (both technically, and in terms of support) when/if commercial model of the startup becomes more successful

c) need to use solutions that are not heavy VC backed, because those typically do not have stable engagement model (as VCs rates of return demand, typically, changes in initial service/open source model, while self-funded startups are typically much slower growing (and slower in committing to buying expenses))

d) need self-hosted solutions to cover lot of ground in one (so that the learning curve, and time needed to integrate are minimized).

Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#42
So what's the pricing model? Your site lists "pricing" and shows no info.

- Are you charging for support?

- Do you/will you have a paid enterprise tier that will increasingly be the only tier with a viable feature set?

- What's keeping you from dumping on Segment's market until you hit traction then ratcheting up to Segment's pricing?

- Who are you? Who are your investors?

Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#43

One issue I had with Segment, I couldn't run real-time transformation of the event to join data from our data tables. We eventually got over it with AWS Lambda and sending it back to Segment. Segment recently announced functions to help on this, still could not get my hands on it. Any plans on this?

Hey there! I work at Segment, and I'm one of the engineers working on Segment Functions. If you let me know your Segment workspace's name (get in touch through jason.tu@segment.com), I can grant you beta access.

Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#45
post #44

Good luck, but this is a huge amount of work to keep something like this running. I hope it’s successful!

Indeed. That's why we have raised a seed round and doing this full time as a serious business. We are passionate about privacy but understand that we cannot have a good shot while doing this part-time.

Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#46
I am a happy Segment user, however their handling of a recent data breach did leave a bit of a sour taste. They took several days to get back to me with a definitive answer as to whether our customer data that we collected was compromised by the internal breach.

I am keen to look at competitive product where we may have more control over the data collected and can manage the risk ourselves.

Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#47
post #42

So what's the pricing model? Your site lists "pricing" and shows no info. - Are you charging for support? - Do you/will you have a paid enterprise tier that will increasingly be the only tier with a viable feature set? - What's keeping you from dumping on Segment's market until you hit traction then ratcheting up to Segment's pricing? - Who are you? Who are your investors?

Pricing: Honestly, we haven't figured out the business model yet. Like other open-source products, it will likely be a combination of support + enterprise features (like HA, auto-scale etc) but again we don't know what those enterprise features would be.

Ratch up Pricing: Good question and not sure how to answer. Our vision is to be like other open-source companies like Mattermost, ES. Our base version (which would work for 90% of users) would be free and under open-source license. But I do understand your concern - maybe there is a way to put that in the license (that the base version will be perpetually open-source)

- Here is our company page (https://www.linkedin.com/company/rudderlabs). Our lead investor is S28 capital (Partner: Shvet) - they have also invested in Mattermost (an open-source slack competitor)

Re: Rudder, an open source Segment alternative

#48

I am a happy Segment user, however their handling of a recent data breach did leave a bit of a sour taste. They took several days to get back to me with a definitive answer as to whether our customer data that we collected was compromised by the internal breach. I am keen to look at competitive product where we may have more control over the data collected and can manage the risk ourselves.

Would love if you try this :) If you need help, please email(soumyadeb@rudderlabs.com) or join our slack community - https://rudderlabs.herokuapp.com/
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