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No wonder about the results. “The water tested was purchased in the U.S., Kenya, China, Brazil, India, Indonesia, Lebanon, Mexico and Thailand” - so basically just third world countries without strong food safety regulations.
Lebanon's biggest natural resource in a parched middle east is massive underground aquifers with some of the purest water around.
I can't speak to quality of the bottling process though.
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He didnt say that. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nestle-ceo-water-not-human...
He did say that he thinks the idea that bottled water is a human right is “extreme”, and that he doesn’t believe it should be. Full quote: > “Water is, of course, the most important raw material we have today in the world. It’s a question of whether we should privatize the normal water supply for the population. And there are two different opinions on the matter. The one opinion, which I think is extreme, is represen…
No, he is not saying bottled water. He is saying water plain and simple. Any water.
"That means that as a human being you should have a right to water. That’s an extreme solution."
So, for him, having access to water (any water) is not a human right. If some people can not afford to pay for it, that's their problem, or the government's to find an alternative ("and then that one should take specific measures for the part of the population that has no access to this water").
And to respond to him: Yes, Human Right to water is a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right_to_water_and_sanit...
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There’s a lot of logical leaps your making hear. It might not be immediately deadly, but it could have lots of long term subtle effects. For example, it may contribute to cancer rates or obesity. Some people suspect it contributes to low sperm counts among men. All of these would be consistent with the current widespread consumption patterns.
>long term subtle effects The longer term, and subtler the effect is, the safer a substance is. My educated guess is that microplastics are going to cause a lot fewer human deaths and ingury than any of the following natural stuff: Bees, coffee (see acrylamide), peanuts, mosquitoes, arsenic, mushrooms, and bodies of water.
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In Bali, Indonesia (and many developing countries) you have no choice. Drinking tap water is also health hazard in some countries.
Depending on what the hazard is, disinfection tablets can be effective and much cheaper than buying water. Or SODIS sunlight disinfection.
- They tested awful. Iodine tablets have an awful taste after. We often use orange flavored powder to hide it.
- They are expensive in third world countries. You have to use one tablet per liter, and it costs about 10 cents USD per tablet. In comparison, you can buy a 1L plastic bottle of water for 30 cents.
- it takes about half an hour to work, so you can't use them immediately.
- Even if you buy those straws, they have a maximum lifetime before you have to replace the filter (about 1000l). You will need to replace about twice a year if you were to use as the daily drive.
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> The tap water in the vast majority of the US is superior to bottled water. I'm surprised this myth gets repeated so often on HN. It's not true- the standards for purified bottled water are quite high[0]. [0] https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/bottled-water...
1. The link you provided suggests that some bottled water comes from Municipal sources, ie. it is tap water. This would logically imply that the standards for bottled water are 2. The original article you are commenting on suggests that bottled water contains more microplastics than tap water.
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Just another personal anekdote: A friend bought a water destiller because of some health-theories. You are supposed to drink distilled water in the morning and so on... He is usually using it on tap water because he believes the water isn't pure enough (Germany, should be pure enough). One day he figured he could try the bottled water, maybe less build up of chalk in the sistern. This area has a lot of chalk in the g…
Distilled water, particularly if heated, is dangerous to drink, according to some chemists I know. The concept is that the ultra-pure water leaches potentially harmful ions from its surroundings, for example chromium from stainless steel fixtures. Better to drink some harmless sodium and chlorine ions.
Distilled water is boiled and recondensed water, which leaves you with pure H2O (no minerals etc). It's safe to drink but pretty bland.
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I didn't notice any mention. Just a guess though, I've seen S. Pellegrino in plastic so it's possible theirs were.
If this https://orbmedia.org/stories/plus-plastic/ is the website that posted the results (weird site - what's with all those huge/fancy animations?): I keep seeing small plastic bottles (in the animations) => does San Pellegrino sell it (as well) in small glass bottles? (or are the small ones only plastic/PET)?
Ugh, I drink San Pellegrino like it is water. :) There is one sitting next to me as I type this. I like the "fuzzy water" as my daughter called it when she was 2. Any studies on if it is in the tab water and the effects of something like a Britta filter on taking them out? Our house water is though that.
Britta are going to love the microplastic awareness movement. They'll figure out a way to filter them out and then they'll sell like hot cakes.
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> The tap water in the vast majority of the US is superior to bottled water. I'm surprised this myth gets repeated so often on HN. It's not true- the standards for purified bottled water are quite high[0]. [0] https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/bottled-water...
1. The link you provided suggests that some bottled water comes from Municipal sources, ie. it is tap water. This would logically imply that the standards for bottled water are 2. The original article you are commenting on suggests that bottled water contains more microplastics than tap water.
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Distilled water, particularly if heated, is dangerous to drink, according to some chemists I know. The concept is that the ultra-pure water leaches potentially harmful ions from its surroundings, for example chromium from stainless steel fixtures. Better to drink some harmless sodium and chlorine ions.
I think you're referring to deionized water. Deionized (DI) water is water that where all ions are removed. This is not safe to drink. Distilled water is boiled and recondensed water, which leaves you with pure H2O (no minerals etc). It's safe to drink but pretty bland.
And DI water gets hydronium and hydroxide pretty quickly (if they ever go away.) H2O just breaks down into OH- and H3O+ on its own (as far as I know)