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Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

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Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

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Big fan of static site generators and the whole JAMStack idea in general - I use Jekyll extensively - but after building a site with Gatsby, I found it too over-engineered. React is great, and definitely has its place, but to set up React, GraphQL and all the surrounding tooling just to assemble some text files into a template seems like complexity for the sake of it. For me, the fun of static sites - after years of…

Another advantage of developing close to plain HTML is that you’re free from the js next-shiny-thing hamster wheel. For example, I had thought Gatsby was the hip way to create static sites in 2019. Then another comment here mentioned it’s Next.js now.

Next is not a static site generator, as I understand it. It's a framework for React that includes server-side rendering of HTML, among other things.

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

#193
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A static page framework that shoves content into a client side graphql store and then extracts bits out to render a page? It's popular, so I can't say it was a bad idea. I guess I'll just say I must be old because it sounds like satire.

I don't really get the GraphQL part yet either. I really like the concept of static sites with instant client-side page transitions, but for the vast majority of those, it doesn't seem like putting all the data into a GraphQL database before inserting it into the templates solves a problem?

I've been using React Static [1] for that now, where you just load the data in memory. I'd expected to discover in the process why GraphQL is so useful, but I did not. This might just be my limited point of view.

I guess as soon as you're dealing with lots and lots of data it might be useful, but the projects for which that is the case and which want a mostly-static site seem like they're a very small niche.

[1] https://react-static.js.org/

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

#194
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I really love Gatsby. It combines the best of both worlds: static sites and React. For a very long time, I've been fond of Jekyll. It's mostly because my open source projects are hosted on GitHub and Jekyll is their go-to framework. There's nothing wrong per se with Jekyll. I was simply missing some features from React. When I was working on React apps, the main benefits for me were: (i) component encapsulation and (…

I posted a similar sentiment elsewhere on this page. The project that really hit the sweet spot for me, in this regard, is React Static: https://react-static.js.org/

Doesn't have VC money, though, but there's not that much development needed for my (and apparently yours) use cases either.

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

#195

Big fan of static site generators and the whole JAMStack idea in general - I use Jekyll extensively - but after building a site with Gatsby, I found it too over-engineered. React is great, and definitely has its place, but to set up React, GraphQL and all the surrounding tooling just to assemble some text files into a template seems like complexity for the sake of it. For me, the fun of static sites - after years of…

> complexity for the sake of it.

It's not for the sake of it. It's so Gatsby didn't have to achieve much beyond wrapping some complicated frameworks to be useful. Basically, about 5 minutes into setting up Gatbsy, you go "Oh, so it's just React and GraphQL. Ok..."

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

#196
“Matthews says Gatsby (the company) is now contributing about $3 million per year to open-source projects that include the core Gatsby tools and the plugin ecosystem around it.”

Who should we reach out to about this funding for our open source project to integrate with Gatsby ecosystem? We have an open-source platform with tons of components like videoconferencing, events, rides etc. hosted for free on github.com .

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

#197

In a dozen of hours I wrote Sitio[1]. Sitio generates static pages with React templates and if wanted they also become alive React components at the client. It has a simple imperative API, no GraphQL, no Webpack, any kind of datasource can be easily plugged (in fact I did plug many). It turns out Gatsby also exposes an imperative API that runs behind its fancy declarative API, and it's very similar to mine. However,…

No webpack is a big win. Thinking Gatsby is this fun & easy thing and then realizing you're going all-in on the current npm/JS insanity is not a good feature.

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

#198

I don't really like Gatsby's product, but I've got to admit that their business strategy makes a lot of sense. It's a pretty good three-step approach: 1. Convince the WordPress/enterprise crowd to switch over, both by touting the genuine benefits of static sites (security, scalability, TTFB performance, etc.) and by riding the Cool Kid Front-End Stack hype train. 2. Lock them in with an overly-complicated framework a…

Yeah you look at hugo there are 0 npm dependencies while you can use it with react and and npm based build its optional which is nice. Now that the vast majority of browsers use script type="module" there is no longer a dire need for npm, es6 modules can now be used without a complex webpack process behind their inclusion.

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

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What's a good, mature headless CMS that "just works" and is compatible with Gatsby/GraphQL?

Contentful

I don't get it: Afaik contentful is a company offering a paid for CMS API, but it isn't a piece of software I can run? But I must be wrong, I people wouldn't recommend this again and again when asked for a CMS. I'd love to try it, where can I find it? Wasn't able to find it on github, npm, Google.

Re: Gatsby raises $15M Series A for its modern web development platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very surprised that a static site generator can raise this much capital, but it suggests to me that 1) the security dilemmas of non-static but content driven sites are still big enough to warrant adoption of this methodology 2) potentially, there is something they are doing right in this space. I'd really like to know what 2 is as there's a lot of other options in this space that are also free, open source, and s…

Raising capital isn't success. Profitability is success. I think the main value of Gatsby is the community-generated recipes to plug and play...but is there value here? If you have one very generic application, then maybe you save time upfront. But you are tied into this heavy wrapper around React that will probably cause you problems down the line. And you probably still need a backend. So I am not sure what value i…

> Raising capital isn't success. Profitability is success.

Automattic just raised $300 million dollars a week or so ago.

One vision of success, I'm very sure, is getting acquired by Automattic.

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