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The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by megous »

shadowgovt wrote: post #25
megous wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's quite nonsensical, what you say. If she was there of her own volition, there would be no need for guards, and doors, and locks, and for people who took her away to have taken her away. She would just walked into the prison when she wanted on her own terms. (unlikely)

I believe empath means that unlike other prisoners, there's a clear and specific action she can take to leave prison any time she chooses to.

Yes, I know. But she doesn't want to be both in prison or testify.

Someone making something you don't want conditional on something else you don't want either, does not make the situation voluntary.

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by tptacek »

jacquesm wrote: post #47
tptacek wrote: post #30

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I don't know Lamo at all, but it's worth considering that Lamo may have saved Manning's life, for more than one reason; Manning could have betrayed more and worse secrets than she managed to before being arrested in Iraq; regardless of Lamo's intervention, and even if she hadn't funneled any more documents to Assange, she likely would have been caught anyways, and had she been caught later, her commutation might not…

Betray someone today, save their life! Really, this is reaching. 'May, could, if, likely, might, could' How many weasel words can you cram into one hypothetical? How about: It is possible that had Lamo not turned in Manning that we have no clue on how things happened past that point because it didn't happen .

None of those are weasel words.

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Post by langaaegeskov »

quaquaqua1 wrote: post #3

I independently investigated Lamo's death. The most likely cause of death is related to kidney failure as per the autopsy posted of the medical examiner's website. Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it. RIP

If he had an element of kidney failure, that would make him more at risk of death from overdose. The kidneys are one of the main organs (that and the liver) that clear toxins from the body, so with kidney disease you could die from a sedative dose that would be safe for someone with healthy kidneys. Certainly kidney damage can result from prescription and non prescription drug use.

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by googlesux »

iamnotacrook wrote: post #49
quaquaqua1 wrote: post #3

I independently investigated Lamo's death. The most likely cause of death is related to kidney failure as per the autopsy posted of the medical examiner's website. Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it. RIP

Do you mean you worked on the case, or just that you read about it on the internet?

Lololol rip

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by SmileyRedBall »

If I recall correctly, most of Lemos hacks consisted of bypassing weakly secured web proxies to access internal Intranets. If I also recall correctly, he had been working for the Feds for some time, before turning in Manning. As Lamo had been caught trying to purchase drugs online using other peoples credit cards. but never mind, print the legend.

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Post by Thorrez »

antithotpolice wrote: post #45
quotz wrote: post #13

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I watched an interview with him and what you say definitely feels true to me. I mean that guy snitched on the good guys, and Chelsea Manning was a really good friend of his. Who the fuck does that? You can really see that he was plaqued by mental issues....

It’s kind of disorienting to read that. AFAIK, Chelsea was never friends with Adrian. Bradley, on the other hand, was. Must we rewrite history?

Actually Manning (regardless of first name) was not really good friends with Adrian.

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Post by jlgaddis »

tptacek wrote: post #30
quotz wrote: post #13

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I watched an interview with him and what you say definitely feels true to me. I mean that guy snitched on the good guys, and Chelsea Manning was a really good friend of his. Who the fuck does that? You can really see that he was plaqued by mental issues....

I don't know Lamo at all, but it's worth considering that Lamo may have saved Manning's life, for more than one reason; Manning could have betrayed more and worse secrets than she managed to before being arrested in Iraq; regardless of Lamo's intervention, and even if she hadn't funneled any more documents to Assange, she likely would have been caught anyways, and had she been caught later, her commutation might not…

"If Grandma had balls, she'd be Grandpa."

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Post by gadders »

jlgaddis wrote: post #77
tptacek wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know Lamo at all, but it's worth considering that Lamo may have saved Manning's life, for more than one reason; Manning could have betrayed more and worse secrets than she managed to before being arrested in Iraq; regardless of Lamo's intervention, and even if she hadn't funneled any more documents to Assange, she likely would have been caught anyways, and had she been caught later, her commutation might not…

"If Grandma had balls, she'd be Grandpa."

That is transphobic. Your Grandma could identify as your Grandpa.
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