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Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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Post by crazynick4 »

iron0013 wrote: post #146
crazynick4 wrote: post #107

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Let me put it a different way - the kids campaigning for climate action are not convincing anyone who wasn't already on board. It's literally just a show that's riling up the people who are already supporters. It's harmful to the kids and not accomplishing much else.

An utterly baseless assertion. I mean, I guess it’s obvious she’s not changing your mind.

So the people that weren't convinced by the scientists will now be convinced by the children? And no, she's not changing my mind because I already support protecting the environment.

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Post by buboard »

iron0013 wrote: post #145
buboard wrote: post #128

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the rhetoric that "inaction is violating children's rights". It's a slippery slope: What about financial debt?

Don’t put words in my mouth. And what about financial debt? Is the only argument you have non sequitur? Or do you just feel like it’s important you keep talking even when you have nothing left to say?

i m referring to this https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2019/09/23/Greta-Thunberg-1...

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Post by faissaloo »

crazynick4 wrote: post #115
faissaloo wrote: post #112

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School is grossly overrated, especially in the information age. Ensuring your generation still has a future is measurably more important.

Yes, in the age where you need more knowledge than ever in order to have a living wage, where menial labor is being automated faster and faster, we need less education. Good point.

School is not equivalent to education

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #41
nostromo wrote: post #18

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I did not blame the victim. I specifically blamed the many adults and organizations using her to try and score political points.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't blame the trolls? There are clear antagonists here.

Internet trolls are an inevitable outcome of large-scale anonymous communication. We can opine about how the world should be all day long, but at some point adults need to be pragmatic in their care. Just as they shouldn't take children to seedy dive bars because of the inevitable exposure to bad things, so too should they be shielded from communities in which abuse is inevitable.

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

bjowen wrote: post #150
buboard wrote: post #20

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No just dont amplify them so incredibly much. They are children in the end, they deserve protection Trolling is a fundamental right , not being trolled is not

> Trolling is a fundamental right , not being trolled is not This is hilariously wrong in most jurisdictions, probably including the one you’re thinking of. You may be parseing down ‘trolling’ to ‘behaving argumentatively on the internets’ but this is not the substance of what attacks are being brought against these young women, who are also minors. Feel free to double down on “death threats aren’t trolling” and so o…

It's always illegal to make death threats.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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Post by notus »

sifar wrote: post #103
notus wrote: post #101

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We should be asking how we can make these better environments for children, because saying children can't use a public twitter account is not going to fly. Also attributing it to bad parenting is also a cop-out in my opinion. Not all of these concerns are immediately visible to parents. If they don't use twitter themselves they might not be aware of how it can be used.

Children shouldn't use twitter.

but they already do and no amount of saying they shouldn't is going to change that

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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Post by dang »

iron0013 wrote: post #145
buboard wrote: post #128

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the rhetoric that "inaction is violating children's rights". It's a slippery slope: What about financial debt?

Don’t put words in my mouth. And what about financial debt? Is the only argument you have non sequitur? Or do you just feel like it’s important you keep talking even when you have nothing left to say?

Could you please stop breaking the site guidelines? We ban accounts that do that repeatedly.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of the site more to heart, we'd appreciate it.

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