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Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This happened after I revoked the approved app. I found critical bug and reupload my app. After this actions my app was locked :(

Maybe the right solution was to not revoke the current app and just upload the fix? If it was a security bug, that kinda sucks for security, but if the cost is being locked out of your developer account, that might be what developers need to do going forward.

Good point

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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I really feel for those who fall victim of this huge companies that under various disguises trying to get full control of people's lives and business. I am lucky that so far I have managed to avoid all this walled garden madness. All of my products so far are either desktop based or browser based and servers are hosted on my own/rented hardware, no cloudy stuff. Other than paying for security certificates every now and then I have no interaction with the "authorities of the Internet"

Frankly I do not understand why do people submit to this kind of stewardship

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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The google store operates in the same way. Application developers need to band together and quit accepting these locked down store monopolies. They aren't good for consumers either. The usual justification is that these stores reduce fruad and malware, but I have found the opposite to be true. Having a single store leads to an aggressive race to the bottom, where gaming the store ranking is priority one. Last two tim…

"They aren't good for consumers either." Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps. So in Apple's case, I always appreciate when they provide another service/app that I can use, because their values on privacy aligns with mine and they have built up a trust relationship with me.

But that’s completely different than the question of what the App Store accomplishes. Apple didn’t need or develop an App Store to distribute their own apps, but third party ones.

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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Antitrust moves slow but when it comes it hits like the proverbial hammer smashing a wall-sized tv screen.

Remember when all the Microsofties were gloating about how it was never gonna happen to them?

Pepperidge farm remembers…

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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For some perspective on apple "killing" developers.

Apple is FLOODED with copycat crap apps - 10 different names etc etc. Seriously, the play store used to have lots more of these - maybe now cleaned up. But saying that apple needs to encourage this crap is silly. This is what was killing the play store.

The guy complaining here has his "privacy policy" as follows: https://github.com/glushchenko/fsnotes

When someone who doesn't know git or github tries to read his privacy policy they have no chance.

Why it this all apple's fault? I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for a privacy policy.

One fix, developers should be able to pay $500 to have someone give them some training on what sections of app review guidelines they are breaking. Do 30 minutes to prep, spend an hour talking with them, then 30 minutes to wrap up.

Someone has this service - seriously - consider paying for some guidance if you don't want to read through the lengthy Apple stuff yourself.

https://www.iosconsultant.com/services

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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post #23

I really feel for those who fall victim of this huge companies that under various disguises trying to get full control of people's lives and business. I am lucky that so far I have managed to avoid all this walled garden madness. All of my products so far are either desktop based or browser based and servers are hosted on my own/rented hardware, no cloudy stuff. Other than paying for security certificates every now a…

Yeah, I don't get it. Why hand years of your life over to a bunch of greasy shysters?

I'm looking forward to the day these oversized bully companies become irrelevant. That day will come. The amount of innovation and progress they're holding back from humanity is criminal. Can't last.

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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Any idea why they would want to kill your notes app? There are already a bunch out there and Notes has been around forever.

I don't think they have to want to do anything. This is just the reality of a faceless bureaucracy which isn't accountable to anyone or anything. To the dev, their app is their livelihood— to Apple, it's just a ticket in a queue somewhere.

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Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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The google store operates in the same way. Application developers need to band together and quit accepting these locked down store monopolies. They aren't good for consumers either. The usual justification is that these stores reduce fruad and malware, but I have found the opposite to be true. Having a single store leads to an aggressive race to the bottom, where gaming the store ranking is priority one. Last two tim…

"They aren't good for consumers either." Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps. So in Apple's case, I always appreciate when they provide another service/app that I can use, because their values on privacy aligns with mine and they have built up a trust relationship with me.

> Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps.

Couldn't you still have that without banning off-store apps?

Re: How Apple Kills Indie Developers

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This is very odd. I’ve always found interactions with the Apple App Store review people to be very smooth and they always tell me exactly what they’re looking for while reviewing my app. If they can’t find it, i get back to them and they finish their review in under an hour. I get the feeling someone isn’t telling the whole story here.

Same. I do feeling like something is missing in this story.
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