Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by ssclafani » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 1:11 AM UTC

Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms
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Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by StavrosK » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 1:23 AM UTC

Am I the only one who wants a JS-HTML combo app that will be both cross-platform and fast, and not one native app for each platform for most of the apps?

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by keyle » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 1:49 AM UTC

He has a point. I'm an ex-air developer. I moved to WPF. So yes, ok there are heaps of bad air app out there, because the learning curve is so low.

That being said I think AIR can be very close to native. It takes that extra mile of programming that most don't do. In the end, you might as well make it native.

But think about this for a moment. An AIR app can and does run well on both Mac and PC. I understand native is better, but it's not a simple matter of money and time. You need to find the skills for a decent mac developer. Most of them are gone crusading in the world of iOS and too busy to make a mac client. .NET developers are plentiful though. my 5c.

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by cdr » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 1:50 AM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #2

Am I the only one who wants a JS-HTML combo app that will be both cross-platform and fast, and not one native app for each platform for most of the apps?

A webapp is not a replacement for a desktop app. There are very legitimate reasons for wanting a desktop app, more for some types of apps than others.

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by StavrosK » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 1:51 AM UTC

cdr wrote: post #5

StavrosK wrote: post #2

Am I the only one who wants a JS-HTML combo app that will be both cross-platform and fast, and not one native app for each platform for most of the apps?

A webapp is not a replacement for a desktop app. There are very legitimate reasons for wanting a desktop app, more for some types of apps than others.

I'm somehow not familiar with any of the apps he's referencing. Is he talking about mobile apps or desktop?

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by spooneybarger » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 2:08 AM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #6

cdr wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A webapp is not a replacement for a desktop app. There are very legitimate reasons for wanting a desktop app, more for some types of apps than others.

I'm somehow not familiar with any of the apps he's referencing. Is he talking about mobile apps or desktop?

desktop

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by StavrosK » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 2:11 AM UTC

spooneybarger wrote: post #7

StavrosK wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm somehow not familiar with any of the apps he's referencing. Is he talking about mobile apps or desktop?

desktop

I see, thanks. My comment above doesn't apply, then. However, I think you can get very nice-looking, cross-platform, native apps with python and QT, GTK or other toolkits.

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by nestlequ1k » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 2:35 AM UTC

Ditched Balsamiq a long time ago for this very reason. Would have been a good app if he didn't decide to build it on such a terrible foundation.

Still, he seems to be doing fine business wise. Maybe it's not as big a deal as al3x makes it out to be.

Re: Shortchanging Your Business with User-Hostile Platforms

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Post by moondowner » Sun, Jan 16, 2011, 2:38 AM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #8

spooneybarger wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

desktop

I see, thanks. My comment above doesn't apply, then. However, I think you can get very nice-looking, cross-platform, native apps with python and QT, GTK or other toolkits.

Qt for the win!