I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
Apple iOS 13.1 Personal automation via Shortcuts
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#82I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
I just got Airpods. I had to sign up for Apple Music yesterday because offline support (when the watch isn't in bluetooth range of the phone) wasn't available with Spotify.
Not sure if this is simply a feature Spotify decided not to implement, or if they can't implement it due to Apple Watch restrictions.
I have similar questions with the Hulu Apple TV app. Results for content in Hulu aren't always included in Apple TV wide search, while content from other apps is.
Apple has done a lot of good things, but they went a little over the top with creating such a strict walled garden. (Another example is their blocking of 3rd party billing system - that's a clear example of Apple hurting the user experience to boost their profits)
Re: Apple iOS 13.1 Personal automation via Shortcuts
#83I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
Very much the latter https://www.timetoplayfair.com/timeline/
Re: Apple iOS 13.1 Personal automation via Shortcuts
#84I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
I'd love for someone to chime in with specifics, but I'm pretty sure it's both--depending on the feature.
I remember reading a story where Spotify either bought or sued an app that allowed streaming to the Apple Watch (it may have been something specific like via LTE with no phone involved). Here's an article from June harping on Spotify not allowing offline playback on the Apple Watch [1]. Spotify launched https://www.timetoplayfair.com and sued Apple in the EU because they can't work with Siri and Apple's Home pod.
On the other side, Netflix disables Airplay requesting you use the app on that device. I'm sure this is to enforce their per-device limits at different subscription tiers.
So it could be Apple not offering APIs, inaction on their part, or strategically not allowing that feature.
Re: Apple iOS 13.1 Personal automation via Shortcuts
#85I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
FWIW, I'm able to create an automation that runs a shortcut to start playing podcasts in Overcast when connecting AirPods. It's not super-clear, but you need to set the automation to "Run a Shortcut" from the Shortcuts app, rather than pick a shortcut from the app itself.
Try creating a shortcut in the Shortcuts app to play something in Spotify. Then search for "Run a Shortcut" when you're wiring up the personal automation, and then tap the word "Shortcut" in "Run Shortcut" to pick your Spotify shortcut.
The proper fix here should be that all the shortcuts should be direct actions.
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#86Has anyone found any of these useful? I'm racking my brain for something that would benefit me, but nothing comes to mind... but I feel like I'm just lacking creativity here.
Some things that I've setup or use in shortcuts:
- "gas prices" pull up the gasbuddy website, regex the first element and get siri to read it aloud.
- "going home" Uses maps to obtain how long it takes to get home from my current location, sets the volume to 70% to get siri to dictate it, and sends the ETA and a nice message to my +1 that i'll be home soon. Version 2 will be to prompt me when I actually leave the GPS of my office around 5-7pm and send it after verbal confirmation. (Barring if there's a pop up that has been mentioned)
- "Share Location" this is one of the ones available in gallery that let's you send people your current location. I hope they make 'Share ETA' available but I don't see that option in maps yet. That would let people know when i'm arriving at their house.
This is fun enough that I'm hoping to buy some NFC stickers and get some homekit devices to play with.
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#87I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
I just got Airpods. I had to sign up for Apple Music yesterday because offline support (when the watch isn't in bluetooth range of the phone) wasn't available with Spotify. Not sure if this is simply a feature Spotify decided not to implement, or if they can't implement it due to Apple Watch restrictions. I have similar questions with the Hulu Apple TV app. Results for content in Hulu aren't always included in Apple…
> Results for content in Hulu aren't always included in Apple TV wide search, while content from other apps is.
I'm unclear if Apple needs to add support or if the third party needs to offer it in a specific format. I do often see Hulu, Netflix, and other third parties show up. Often they pop up before Apple. But other services like Hoopla and Kanopy don't show up. To be fair, searching across services is a mess all around. Third party websites have popped up, but seem to be missing a lot of data or stop working after a few months.
> offline support (when the watch isn't in bluetooth range of the phone) wasn't available with Spotify.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/09/watchos-6-spotify/
That seems to be up for debate. This article calls out other apps that do this without issue...but it may not be fair to compare it to Overcast, which doesn't have any contractual restrictions on storing it locally in an encrypted format or any other hoops Spotify might need to address.
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#88I've been looking forward to this feature, but I must say I'm pretty disappointed that most of the personal automations still require a manual approval before they will execute. For example, I can schedule a particular shortcut to always run at a specific time. When that time comes, however, my phone will display a notification which I must physically tap to execute the automation. If I miss the notification, nothing…
I think battery usage could be a primary concern here. Yes, this should continue to improve. Imagine coming home and all your blinds open automatically, lights turn on etc.
This can already be done in the "home automation" side of the shortcuts / home app. My own house lights up whenever my wife or I come home after dark and goes dark again when we leave.
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#89Kind of neat that the way these are shared is a PNG file with appended data. The PNG file is the icon for the Shortcut :)
Example: https://cvws.icloud-content.com/B/AZc9tIA45EozUwn3Zs0zZEJSUY...
Re: Apple iOS 13.1 Personal automation via Shortcuts
#90I tried to have it launch spotify when Airpods were connected, but found only Apple music supported. I’ve always wondered, is the lack of Spotify support in Siri, Shortcuts, due to Spotify or due to Apple blocking them?
I'd love for someone to chime in with specifics, but I'm pretty sure it's both--depending on the feature. I remember reading a story where Spotify either bought or sued an app that allowed streaming to the Apple Watch (it may have been something specific like via LTE with no phone involved). Here's an article from June harping on Spotify not allowing offline playback on the Apple Watch [1]. Spotify launched https://w…
Spotify is hypocritical to say the least. They complain about Apple controlling their ecosystem too tightly and being too unfriendly to third parties while also refusing to provide a modern replacement for the deprecated and broken libspotify, removing playback capabilities from their other SDKs, breaking numerous Spotify-capable hardware devices, and shutting down third party devs trying to build on their platform.
Spotify has no room to complain.