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Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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Excellent. Blame the victim for having an opinion. People are not responding to their beliefs though - this is straight up abuse, racism, and crass insults. Presumably as they are unable to engage with those beliefs at a rational level.

I did not blame the victim. I specifically blamed the many adults and organizations using her to try and score political points.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't blame the trolls? There are clear antagonists here.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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Sad to see. Although, honestly, the parents shouldn't have allowed their kids to put themselves in these 'activist' positions to begin with. What did they expect? And also, a 16 year old girl speaking at the UN? Is that a joke? I fully support protecting the environment but this is child exploitation for political purposes. These movements should be led by scientists, not children. Is it any wonder people are still s…

In a world where most “adults” seem self-serving, complacent, or corrupt, I think we should be thankful that our young people are unwilling to embrace this nihilistic state of affairs and demand change. And they’re among the few that are listening to the scientists instead of their narrow self-interest.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

#43

Sad to see. Although, honestly, the parents shouldn't have allowed their kids to put themselves in these 'activist' positions to begin with. What did they expect? And also, a 16 year old girl speaking at the UN? Is that a joke? I fully support protecting the environment but this is child exploitation for political purposes. These movements should be led by scientists, not children. Is it any wonder people are still s…

>but this is child exploitation for political purposes. These movements should be led by scientists, not children. Is it any wonder people are still skeptical?

I know climate change is a huge problem, but using young children like this feels creepy and cult-like.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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The movement has been led by scientists for decades. They have been ignored. If it's shameful that a 16 year old is being forced to lead a movement, the shame is on society and the older generations for not doing anything about climate change despite manifest urgency.

So the idea is that children will succeed where the scientists have failed? It certainly doesn't seem to say much for the scientists.

I agree, though I wouldn't single out scientists.

It doesn't say much at all for the generation that's ignoring the issue.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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>mom of 8-year-old climate activist Havana Chapman-Edwards Is it just me, or is there something disturbing about an 8 year old activist for anything? I cannot see anything good coming from turning young children into activists. Kids that age need love and stability, not the fear that the world is going to end unless they do something.

Kids are routinely enthused about things and desire to do good.

Having a genuine, important and understandable cause is likely to amplify that.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

#47
Of course the trolls are wrong for trolling, but trolling is a fact of life on the web.

When I was a kid I was told to never link any online account with my real identity and to always regard every person encountered on the web as a potential bad actor. The article begins with the story of an 11-year-old whose identity is linked to a public Twitter account.

There is a distinct lack of recognition for the failures in parenting taking place here. Personal safety and privacy are necessities for a healthy childhood, a public soapbox is not.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

#48

Using children as political tools is disgusting. It's blatantly manipulative. Throwing them into the cess-pool of public politics and then acting as if you're shocked they're in a cess-pool, and using that shock to try to score political points, is one of the more reprehensible tactics in the modern play book.

Not only that, but their age and lack of development is actively used as a shield for the ideas they're representing: "How dare you attack a child!" It's so duplicitous I'm surprised more people aren't condemning it.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

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post #31

Using children as political tools is disgusting. It's blatantly manipulative. Throwing them into the cess-pool of public politics and then acting as if you're shocked they're in a cess-pool, and using that shock to try to score political points, is one of the more reprehensible tactics in the modern play book.

Even if it's wrong for parents to expose kids to toxic online environments like Twitter, surely you'd agree that someone trolling kids online (like with "She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see!") should be ashamed of themselves and driven out of polite society, yes?

> surely you'd agree that someone trolling kids online ... should be ashamed of themselves and driven out of polite society, yes?

I think pretty much everyone involved here, aside from the children, ought to be ashamed of themselves. I don't buy into the idea that people ought to be driven out of society though.

Re: Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online

#50

Using children as political tools is disgusting. It's blatantly manipulative. Throwing them into the cess-pool of public politics and then acting as if you're shocked they're in a cess-pool, and using that shock to try to score political points, is one of the more reprehensible tactics in the modern play book.

I agree, but it's also disgusting to troll, harass, and personally attack children who are thrown (or throw themselves, she's a teen) into the political cesspool. Everyone involved should be ashamed.

I must point out that the larger problem here is that our politics is such a cesspool of trolling and sensationalism and personal attacks. We have lost the ability to even have a rational discourse about issues with the dialogue now being dominated by shrill fanatics and attention whoring trolls on all sides.

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