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I believe in the case of NY it was all flavors except menthol that were banned.
Ya, it is politically too difficult to ban menthol at the moment.
Can you elaborate?
Juul Labs CEO to Step Down
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#144They reached out to me on LinkedIn. Don't know why they need software engineers, but I don't think I'm aligned with their mission -- whatever it may be.
Should've at least talked to a recruiter to hear them out, I'd be too curious not to. Years back I'd had a recruiter for one of the world's largest pornographers reach out to me, was very interesting to learn about what they do and how they do it.
I did talk to a recruiter hiring for Juul, the one time they called me. Their only selling point was how fast the company was growing. This was around the time Altria bought them.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
juul is a nicotine salt instead of freebase nicotine, making it unique among market offerings.
Well some regular vape mods can use nicotine salts, so I don't see what's unique. Never tried these so I have no idea why that's different as I said. Just what I picked up from the buzz around their launch about the "faster better hit".
what's unique is that juul goes at 50mg of nic, where most small operators would stop at 20mg. with step downs all the way to 0mg. juul only offers 50mg. (20mg in Europe as that is the legal max)
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There needs to be some more information out there as to what specifically is causing this illness. Everyone is quick to lump all vapes together when there are a ton of rumors that the ones making people sick/dead are blackmarket/bootleg THC cartridges from China. For all of these illnesses and deaths to come on so quickly, it seems more like a tainted product than the typical PG/VG/flavoring mixture causing this. We…
"Rumors" from e.g. the Minnesota department of public health
I hadn't seen anything official, only people saying it in comments so I didn't want to imply it was a fact.
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> which is now used by the government to squeeze tobacco companies by the nuts. As it should. These companies provide absolutely zero benefit to society, and rely on addicts to keep their business going, and they try to get more addicts in the process. Human greed is truly destructive.
mmm.. it depends. Fucking over these companies is a good way to go. But fucking them over just the right amount so that they continue doing business to pay money is not ok. It creates a perverse incentive in which the government actually wants people to buy cigarettes so it can continue the money flow. You'd think that cigarette taxes go into public health but that's not the case. The problem here is that with vaping…
The way I see it, tobacco products should be fully banned. If there are companies that truly want to help the addicts, they can work in a controlled manner, overseen by the government, something like a rehab program. There should be deadlines set by when the rehab programs would end when there are no more smokers left. Easier said than done of course, but I see no effort in that direction.
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#148I just managed to quit Juul's after a ~5 year binge. It costed me ~60 dollars a week or so and unlike cigarettes where you typically go outside and make a little event out of it, these little guys can be huffed anywhere, so that usually causes you to build a constant huffing habit. Your entire day is constantly revolving around this little device, it terrified me to realize that I needed some external device/chemicals just to feel normal every day.
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#149I just managed to quit Juul's after a ~5 year binge. It costed me ~60 dollars a week or so and unlike cigarettes where you typically go outside and make a little event out of it, these little guys can be huffed anywhere, so that usually causes you to build a constant huffing habit. Your entire day is constantly revolving around this little device, it terrified me to realize that I needed some external device/chemical…
Did you regularly smoke cigarettes before Juuls? Counter-points:
As a tobacco smoker, I was spending $64/week on cigarettes. A friend of mine spends $100+/week. I spend $40-70/week on Juuls depending on where I'm at in the US.
"Going outside and making a little event out of it" is one way of putting it. But the inconvenience, the cold weather and snow, and the glares from non-smokers don't make me enjoy it like you seemed to.
"Life constantly revolving around this little device" -- at least it's a little device that doesn't make you stink and doesn't come with a massive reduction in carcinogens. Ask any addicted smoker who's tried to quit if they feel their "life revolves around cigarettes." Mine sure did.
Finally, the "needing chemicals just to feel normal every day" is a symptom of nicotine addiction no matter what the delivery device.
I suppose if you never smoked tobacco and picked up Juuls for the fun of it, that was a pretty poor choice. But for millions of us, it's a massive improvement over cigarettes.
For me, the Juul is the best invention to mitigate the fact that teenage-me started smoking 30 years ago. Until we can develop a time machine where I can go back and beat some sense into my teenage self, let's keep the Juuls!
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A pack of cigarettes in NY goes for $10+. A four-pack of Juul pods goes for $16, and each of those four is supposed to be the equivalent of a pack. (And those are the brand-name pods.)
I've heard the Juul pods are the equivalent to a pack in terms of nicotine content, but i don't think that means people go through one pod in the same time as they would go through one pack.
I think you're wrong there, most people I know go through 1 pod per day max.