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Post by est »

mleonhard wrote: post #305

Cloudflare WARP is an easy-to-use free VPN which protects your IP address from businesses who haven't paid Cloudflare yet. Companies like InfoUSA can convert 95% of US IP addresses to physical addresses and household resident names. By inserting themselves in the network between users and websites, Cloudflare will soon be able to get a chunk of InfoUSA's advertising profits. Remember, if you aren't paying for it then…

FTA:

> What WARP Is Not

> From a technical perspective, WARP is a VPN. But it is designed for a very different audience than a traditional VPN. WARP is not designed to allow you to access geo-restricted content when you’re traveling. It will not hide your IP address from the websites you visit. If you’re looking for that kind of high-security protection then a traditional VPN or a service like Tor are likely better choices for you.

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Post by commoner »

godelmachine wrote: post #223

Would anyone kindly elucidate on the difference between Warp vs VPN? I recently purchased Adblock by Futuremind from AppStore, since I got really worried about my privacy. It has some features like local proxy DNS and setting up new rules. I keep my VPN on all day. Before that, I used to use Hotspot Shield since that was free. I used to get only one server viz. USA. I see internet speaks highly of NordVPN but that’s…

The main difference is that VPNs mask your IP address, while Warp does not. If you're using a VPN for online privacy, Warp would not be an adequate replacement.

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Post by jlgaddis »

tucif wrote: post #251
sebasmurphy wrote: post #115

Just going to throw this out there for anyone who is hesitant using a vpn managed by another service. You can set up your own easily using the ansible scripts provided by trailofbits, which supports both IPSEC and wireguard. https://github.com/trailofbits/algo a small DO (Digital Ocean) instance is only $5 a month and comes with 1TB outbound bandwidth (last I checked), which ends up being cheaper than most commercial…

Or host it for free in one of Oracle's cloud 'always free' tier VMs. Disclaimer: I'm an employee

"Oracle" and "free" in the same sentence? Has hell finally frozen over?

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Post by commoner »

rsync wrote: post #247
scoutt wrote: post #109

Now that Cloudflare has their own VPN, will there be an increase in showing those annoying captcha/challenge pages for connections made from every other VPN/Tor?

I think it is more appropriate to say that Cloudflare has their own TOR ... As I ask elsewhere in this comment section, I don't see why "warp" endpoints won't be discriminated against the same way TOR endpoints are.

Tor masks a user's IP address, while Warp does not.

Warp endpoints will most likely not face the same kind of "discrimination". However, Warp does not provide any anonymity, which is the main reason people use Tor.

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Post by commoner »

david_shaw wrote: post #267

> It will not hide your IP address from the websites you visit. This is an interesting design choice. I'm sure the idea here is to reduce the number of abuse complaints directed to Cloudflare, but it also seems to significantly reduce the value of the service. I'm excited to try WARP, but without IP masking, I'll need to keep paying for a commercial VPN service. If I'm already paying for a commercial VPN, I don't see…

Warp is still useful for secure web browsing on public Wi-Fi networks that aren't protected with a password.

It's not a good option for you, since you already have a VPN, but you can recommend the free version of Warp to people who want to be more secure but don't want to pay for a VPN subscription.

Warp+ is less defensible.

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Post by kabacha »

est wrote: post #311
mleonhard wrote: post #305

Cloudflare WARP is an easy-to-use free VPN which protects your IP address from businesses who haven't paid Cloudflare yet. Companies like InfoUSA can convert 95% of US IP addresses to physical addresses and household resident names. By inserting themselves in the network between users and websites, Cloudflare will soon be able to get a chunk of InfoUSA's advertising profits. Remember, if you aren't paying for it then…

FTA: > What WARP Is Not > From a technical perspective, WARP is a VPN. But it is designed for a very different audience than a traditional VPN. WARP is not designed to allow you to access geo-restricted content when you’re traveling. It will not hide your IP address from the websites you visit. If you’re looking for that kind of high-security protection then a traditional VPN or a service like Tor are likely better c…

Then what does it do?

> WARP, instead, is built for the average consumer. It’s built to ensure that your data is secured while it’s in transit. So the networks between you and the applications you’re using can’t spy on you.

Isn't that what ssl does already lol? What a load of sham.

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Post by linkregister »

aftbit wrote: post #299
eastdakota wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Early on in Cloudflare’s history when we were asked who our competition was we said Facebook. The concern was that the challenges of being online would get so hard that individual websites would give up and just move to run Facebook pages. We saw our role as providing the security and performance needed to compete without making you give in to use an all-consuming platform. We haven’t said that in a long time, but I…

How do you protect yourselves from becoming part of the USA's internet surveillance network? You're exposed to National Security Letters and you lost the case with the Ninth. https://blog.cloudflare.com/ninth-circuit-rules-on-nsl-gag-o...

Ironically, the U.S. is the safest place from the USA's surveillance network, when no warrant whatsoever is required to collect information by hacking into a foreign entity.

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Post by assafmo »

kristofferR wrote: post #37

It's borderline unusable for me. It takes 20 seconds for every YouTube video to load while they load instantaneous without WARP: https://streamable.com/9tp1k

Also for me. Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp and Google Photos just load forever. Android 8.1.

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Post by afiori »

laughinghan wrote: post #290
chousuke wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For such cases, we should have the necessary legal tools to deal with them if the material is truly dangerous enough to be consequential. It is not the job of a corporation to decide, though I suppose they are not under any obligation to provide service, either. I am generally against censorship, because for every case that is "obvious", there are many more that merely seem so on the surface. This is especially impor…

You and I have completely inverted ideas of what censorship is and why it is bad. Using legal tools would be horrific. Government censors deciding what material is too dangerous for the public is exactly one of the elements of fascism. Private entities on the open market exercising their right to not help promote ideas they object to is a good thing. It means that the more objectionable an idea is, the harder it is t…

the point is that in every jurisdiction in the world there are already laws to stop "encouraging mass murder to post their killing spree". Governments should not interfere in censoring lawful speech. Moreover an actual court of law ruling that 8chan was an illegal site would set a precedent for such thing happening.

> They do have a responsibility not to enable bad people to do bad things, including not promoting ideas they know are dangerous.

This is literally corporate fascism if done in an extralegal way. And no, the free market is not going to care about the 1-5% of people discarded.

To quote a very nice blog[1]:

Declare that you’re going to stop holding witch hunts, and your coalition is certain to include more than its share of witches.

[1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-central...

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