Live data from Hacker News

Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

cbc.ca

171–180 of 270 posts

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#171

I drink tea over coffee (for digestive reasons), and I assume I am missing out on really good tea. Any readily-available loose-leaf tea recommendations?

Depending on what you mean by "really good tea". There are both varieties of tea, and then grades of quality within the same variety.

For Chinese teas easily found in the US, dragon well (longjing) and iron buddha (tie guan yin) are very drinkable green teas. Iron Buddha tends to taste a bit more metallic, leafy, and sweet, Dragon Well tends to have a warmer flavor with a tiny hint of savoriness. Both are much lighter in flavor than, say, Earl Grey, which makes them very drinkable even in large quantities, but if you're used to Earl Grey you might not be able to taste these teas. If you want a stronger, more earthy, less leafy flavor, you can find puerh fairly easily. There's a very large range of quality for puerh, so this can be a rabbit hole. As a general rule, you should only buy loose leaf for Chinese tea varieties. I've had dragon well in a bag/sachet before and it tastes like a poor facsimile.

I specifically didn't mention Jasmine because Jasmine tea is often a lower grade of quality in the US, which has the downside of tasting too leafy/bitter/heavy on tannin. If you find a higher quality loose leaf Jasmine, it's also a very drinkable tea that you might like.

In general, I personally prefer leaf-only-no-added-flavors teas, but everyone's tastes differ. What I recommend to everyone who asks is to try a lot of varieties from different countries (mainly China, Japan, India, and try white, green, red, and black varieties), try a few of the flowery/herbal/fruity blends, and settle on whatever you like.

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#172
post #53
post #7

Loose tea is often cheaper and of better quality in my experience. If you brew tea a lot using a reusable strainer seems like a much better choice. I'm also entirely convinced that these plastic pyramid-shaped bags are pure marketing. Then again, I find Lipton tea absolutely terrible regardless of the shape of the bag.

My buddy used to work for Lipton. He explained that they use the cheapest grade of tea (dust) available. Also many tea companies mix non-tea additives (fillers) to their tea bags. After hearing this I decided, if it's not full loose leaf, I don't drink it. We found that companies like Elephant Chateau ( http://elephantchateau.com ) deliver the 3 highest grades of tea direct from Ceylon mountain estates with the optio…

I drink Lipton unsweetened, as ice tea. Although, I usually prefer Tetley.

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#173
post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> we save 3.5 million pounds of waste from entering landfills 3.5 million pounds? Of tiny strings and staples? Wouldn't that require literally billions of teabags to reach 3.5 million pounds saved?

Yeah it seems overstated. Maybe they mean in terms of raw materials? Like iron ore and extra cotton production... still seems steep.

I see what you did there.

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#174
I am a fan of buying empty tea bags and then filling them with loose-leaf tea. The more enviromentally friendly way to have tea that is not oversteeped would be to use a metal strainer, but those can be a pain to clean.

I didn't know to check what those bags are made of, but now I do.

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#175
post #153
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My buddy used to work for Lipton. He explained that they use the cheapest grade of tea (dust) available. Also many tea companies mix non-tea additives (fillers) to their tea bags. After hearing this I decided, if it's not full loose leaf, I don't drink it. We found that companies like Elephant Chateau ( http://elephantchateau.com ) deliver the 3 highest grades of tea direct from Ceylon mountain estates with the optio…

> Elephant Chateau ( http://elephantchateau.com ) deliver the 3 highest grades of tea direct from Ceylon mountain estates with the option for plant-based pyramid bags (soilon) or a free stainless steel infuser. And the "Shop" button takes me to Amazon ? My skepticism radar is going off.

Same. Their whole experience feels like the drop shipper of tea, or at least a liquidator.

I have used Adagio Teas (https://www.adagio.com/) for almost a decade now and have no complaints.

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#176
post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've been using Tea Pigs which is pretty good (and about half the price of T2). Not sure I could taste the difference at that price point, but we have a T2 locally.

No opinion on the quality of their tea, but Tea Pigs was the first brand which came to mind when I read 'plastic teabag': https://www.teapigs.co.uk/tea/shop-by-category/black/single-...

They claim they don't use plastic at all, not even for packaging:

https://www.teapigs.co.uk/about/sustainability-and-values

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#177
post #174

I am a fan of buying empty tea bags and then filling them with loose-leaf tea. The more enviromentally friendly way to have tea that is not oversteeped would be to use a metal strainer, but those can be a pain to clean. I didn't know to check what those bags are made of, but now I do.

I use a Japanese teapot, and most have a metal mesh inside. You can just give it a rinse with water after using it and you’re pretty much done. If you’re using decent quality tea leaves, they’ll expand to a pretty large size within the pot and there’s really nothing to get caught in the filter. Just flip it over and dump it.

Definitely a worthwhile purchase if you’re a big drinker.

Here’s an example: http://kyonagomi.ocnk.net/data/kyonagomi/product/20141028_ki...

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#178
post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> we save 3.5 million pounds of waste from entering landfills 3.5 million pounds? Of tiny strings and staples? Wouldn't that require literally billions of teabags to reach 3.5 million pounds saved?

Yeah it seems overstated. Maybe they mean in terms of raw materials? Like iron ore and extra cotton production... still seems steep.

That manufacturer is in every Walmart in the US. Do not underestimate how much they sale.

Re: Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup

#179

The good thing, if you can call it that, is PET and nylon (what these silk teabags are made of) are some of the least reactive and most human-safe plastics you can put in your body.

See comment above..

alexandercrohde 4 hours ago

Commentary published in Environmental Health Perspectives in April 2010 suggested that PET might yield endocrine disruptors under conditions of common use and recommended research on this topic.[26]

Post reply on HN