Why would people buy an expensive watch like this when a simple bicycle helmet could save their life? Especially if it is a MIPS helmet (because the previous non-MIPS ones apparently did not work despite all the claims they did)
Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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#652Remember, only Apple Watch™ can save your life and your loved one's. Buy one now for each person you care about. You care about them, do you?
I think you would be an irresponsible monster if you did not track your family and yourself at all times.
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#653My girlfriend has an Apple Watch. We wrestle and practice jiu-jitsu in bed sometimes. When I was squeezing her wrists, the watch buzzed and asked if she wanted to call 911.
OK, Mr.{Ep|Wein}stein.
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I wouldn't be to sure the Apple watch is even comparable to 1-lead ECG, simply due to the difference of how ECG is attached to you and how the Apple watch is. Through this doesn't mean the Apple watch can't be a useful addition, just don't rely on it.
I would imagine it is possible the sensor in an Apple watch is more sophisticated than a single ecg lead.
Apple state that it is equivalent to a 1-lead ECG.
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Hopefully it is better at detecting hard falls than my series2 was at detecting the beginning of a swimming workout... I'd be driving down the road at 30 mph brushing my hair and my apple watch would ask me if I was starting a swimming workout. And I had to turn the knob to unlock to tell it no because it automatically locks you down when a swimming workout starts.
> had to How about instead of brushing your hair and playing with your watch you concentrated on driving?
you seem to be assuming I was steering the car
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...the problem here seems more that nobody missed her for three days. So loneliness is the key issue here and an Apple watch will not fix that. That said, having an Apple watch is certainly much cooler than wearing those emergency call devices they currently sell for old people.
Dear god, man. The woman was "the life of the party" and went to the gym every day, and she DIED a few days after this fall. And your argument is the problem is that she was lonely and a consumer tech device won't fill the hole in her life? This is the coldest of cold takes.
?? I really don't understand what upset you so much about my comment.
A person falls, and nobody misses her or looks after her for three days. How is this not a problem of our current society?
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That's a fair point, assuming you have service it could make it easier to find your specific location in case something happens. However, I'd be much more likely to recommend a GPS beacon specifically designed for this purpose rather than an apple watch. My dad and I used to wear beacons while skiing in the outback in case of an avalanche
I'd also consider trail running. I sometimes run after work. I don't carry alot, and on the trails at sunset I hardly see anyone. I could see myself taking a tumble and needing help. I once encountered a wolf out there and sprinted like never before to get out of the area. I could have easily fell.
Yep. I broke my ankle because I had to get back home quickly and I tripped while descending some boulders. Fortunately I was in mobile coverage and on a trail that a lot of surfers use, so I was able to call an ambulance and had a few surfers stop and help me out.
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I am not misrepresenting the paper: it attempts to explain why countries with mandatory helmet laws see _no_clearly_measurable_reduction in KSI (Killed, Seriously Injured) rates. More cyclists wear helmets in those jurisdictions (parts of Canada, all of Australia and N.Z.) and yet ecological studies fail to clearly demonstrate any benefit from helmets. If you sprayed a field with RoundUp and saw no difference in the…
Fallen with helmet on a couple of times hard enough to require a new helmet. These falls were a non-event and so they were never reported. The lack of reporting is likely causing this.
The injuries prevented by a helmet with a fall are essentially non-events. The helmet makes no measurable difference to the stuff you care about: dying or being brain-damaged.
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You are misrepresenting the research. The research is regarding the effect of public policy (making it illegal to bike without a helmet) on bicycle accidents. > With regard to the use of bicycle helmets, science broadly tries to answer two main questions... “what is the effect of a public health policy that requires or promotes helmets?” and... “what is the effect of wearing a helmet?” > The linked paper by Dennis an…
To me, it seems like you both failed to accurately represent the linked article. The linked editorial does not limit itself to discussing the impact of public health policy. It does start with a link to an article that attempts to quantify the effects of a Canadian helmet law. However, it then discusses a number of other papers and the general methodological issues with trying to estimate effects of wearing a helmet.…
the article certainly does not endorse the claim you are responding to: "Bicycle helmets prevent neither concussions nor death"
Incorrect. The article makes the strong and accurate claim that there has been no clear, measurable proof that helmets prevent concussion or death.
This should come as no surprise. When cyclists are hit by cars or trucks the force of the collision is generally so huge that the aorta are ruptured, internal organs (including the brain) are torn from their moorings, bones are cracked.
Helmets are incapable of preventing any of the above.
What _is_ capable of preventing such deaths is the removal of the private automobile from the public roads.
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Evidence is simply being brought forth to showcase that before Apple became as large as they did, they still cared about accessiblity, irregardless of their "company size" as you stated.
I don't see how that's relevant at all in 2019. People WERE giving Apple mad props for their thoughtfulness back in the day. Now, they have revenue over a third that of Saudi Arabia's GDP. I was responding the OPs point. That's evidence for an argument nobody made.
> Doesn't seem like outsized thought and effort given the companies size, resources, and relatively small product focus..
It was evidence to elucidate upon a baseless statement you made earlier.