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Re: WARP is here

#263
I'll give it a go, still have 1.1.1.1 installed, though disabled/stopped using it as upon my phone it just eat up battery. Kept trying on updates every now and then, but same. Though beyond that, can't say I've bothered to dig/look into it and figured due to my phone being a 3 year old mid-range affair, now what you would call low-end - though QC 430 2GB Ram kinda works ok.

Re: WARP is here

#264
post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you add Privacy restrictions? I'd like to see a maximum 18 month data retention, and some restriction on changing the terms: promise to never change them, or only change with 6 month public notice... idk

We’ve promised logs deleted after no more than 24 hours. We don’t want personally identifiable information; we think of it as a toxic asset. Here are the privacy guarantees we’ve made for 1.1.1.1 and WARP: https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv...

i'm on the wary side of this thread, but kudos for this

Re: WARP is here

#265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original comment had to do with whether we should trust Cloudflare more than Facebook. If they as a company want to make editorial decisions, that's fine, but the reality is that also means they are not content agnostic. Interestingly enough, they provide services for known spammers and other shady internet operations. As to whether 8chan 'caused' those abhorrent crimes, I couldn't say, any more than 'violent vid…

> The point is that they are demonstrably not exactly what they claim to be, and thus some level of distrust is warranted. Where does Cloudflare claim to be content agnostic?

Here's one of their statements about free speech from six years ago. It's essentially what I've always thought of as their brand.

It's sad to see them compromise their principles, but sometimes it only takes one little Twitter mob to make people back down. That's why it's reasonable to question their character.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-free-speech/

Re: WARP is here

#266

Really cool service. Using warp on my phone and it surprisingly makes a big difference in locations with spotty 4G. Couple of questions : * I read that cloudflare generates a unique id for each install and the purpose was to track referrals. Consider adding an option to opt out of the unique id tracking since some users will be concerned about it. * Any plans to add an option to use an ip from cloudflare instead of m…

Cloudflare has made pretty clear in this thread that they don't plan on stopping the IP from being exposed, they also plan to expose to all sites, even the ones on non-CF networks.

Re: WARP is here

#267
> It will not hide your IP address from the websites you visit.

This is an interesting design choice.

I'm sure the idea here is to reduce the number of abuse complaints directed to Cloudflare, but it also seems to significantly reduce the value of the service.

I'm excited to try WARP, but without IP masking, I'll need to keep paying for a commercial VPN service. If I'm already paying for a commercial VPN, I don't see why I'd ever use WARP.

That said, I definitely trust Cloudflare more than PIA/NordVPN/etc. Some more "bulletproof" providers like Mullvad are probably even more trustworthy, but I don't think Cloudflare is going to mine (or sell) my data.

At this point, I'm just not sure what use-case WARP would really fill for me.

Re: WARP is here

#268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original comment had to do with whether we should trust Cloudflare more than Facebook. If they as a company want to make editorial decisions, that's fine, but the reality is that also means they are not content agnostic. Interestingly enough, they provide services for known spammers and other shady internet operations. As to whether 8chan 'caused' those abhorrent crimes, I couldn't say, any more than 'violent vid…

> The point is that they are demonstrably not exactly what they claim to be, and thus some level of distrust is warranted. Where does Cloudflare claim to be content agnostic?

their ceo previously took a 'stand' before buckling

Re: WARP is here

#269

I just bought a monthly 1.1.1.1 + WARP subscription, and it's slow as hell. Maybe because I'm in Indonesia. But it works just fine with WARP disabled. Another problem is 1.1.1.1 suddenly disconnected when I'm not browsing the internet, like watching videos or reading something on my phone. Hope you guys fix these problems soon.

I have a 300/300 symmetric connection in Barcelona and only get 80/0.07 Mbps with Warp. The 80 is fine, but what is up with 0.07 Mbps up, and why is it so jittery? EDIT: Anyone in Barcelona want to go axe throwing in an hour?

Same in Paris:500 down/60 up without Warp, 300 down/1.25 up with Warp

Re: WARP is here

#270
post #11

The article mentions that WARP is exposing the end user's IP to websites they visit. I'd be interested in how they do that, especially with HTTPS websites where they can't MITM and inject headers. > WARP is not designed to allow you to access geo-restricted content when you’re traveling. It will not hide your IP address from the websites you visit.

Great eye! We haven't figured out how to expose them yet for sites not using Cloudflare. We do have some experience solving this problem for Spectrum [1] we're hoping to lean on. The most important thing to us is users don't expect us to keep their IP private, as that is not the intent of WARP. 1- https://blog.cloudflare.com/mmproxy-creative-way-of-preservi...

>The most important thing to us is users don't expect us to keep their IP private

I would dare to say you're wrong. It's one big reason I wouldn't/won't use Warp.

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