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I wonder how this compares to the several grams of plastic per week consumed from drinking water. https://phys.org/news/2019-06-consume-credit-card-worth-plas...

That's disturbing. Can any consumer grade filters remove plastics that small?

Just stop drinking bottled water.

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> Loose tea is often cheaper and of better quality in my experience. This is indeed my experience as well. Still, the convenience factor of Lipton tea cannot be understated. I'm personally willing to bring in my own tea, metal strainers + teaspoon measurement to my workplace for example (hot-water is usually available in most offices). But that's probably too much for a lot of people. In contrast, you can usually get…

I've been using these tea balls in office environments: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51mTZ1eURrL... In terms of convenience I don't think it's significantly worse than sachets. But yeah, I do buy my own tea and store it in my drawer.

For those wanting to buy one, it's sold by IKEA as the Idealisk tea infuser, $1.99. Also available in lots of other stores, I guess.

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/idealisk-tea-infuser-stainless-...

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Loose tea is often cheaper and of better quality in my experience. If you brew tea a lot using a reusable strainer seems like a much better choice. I'm also entirely convinced that these plastic pyramid-shaped bags are pure marketing. Then again, I find Lipton tea absolutely terrible regardless of the shape of the bag.

I remember a local guide in Uzbekistan (I was on vacation there years ago) "The good tea, we keep it. The average one, we sell it. The bad one we send it to Europe to make tea bags." Luckily I had been using leaves to make my tea at home. Probably the average quality one.

That’s funny! In Guatemala it’s the opposite for coffee. They sell the fancy stuff to McDonald’s and drink the lower quality coffee locally. Still pretty good imho

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My guess is you take a very small sample, count the particles, extrapolate to the whole (I suppose image recognition might automate this somewhat)

Yes but how do you distinguish the microplastics from small tea dust?

I would imagine at this scale, It's not so much counting particles, but weighing them. So you need to separate them out to do that.

Elements of different mass can be separated using centrifuges. Not 100% sure for this case, but I know that's how it's done for certain kinds of refinement.

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Loose tea is often cheaper and of better quality in my experience. If you brew tea a lot using a reusable strainer seems like a much better choice. I'm also entirely convinced that these plastic pyramid-shaped bags are pure marketing. Then again, I find Lipton tea absolutely terrible regardless of the shape of the bag.

Tea bag tea is much finer dust compared to loose leaf of the same brand. So it brews faster (and worse). They change the blend to try and compensate. Tried Liptons once. On our very first trip to the USA, we needed a decent cup of tea. Visited Walmart, bought really expensive pack of Liptons which I think was one of just a very few teas among millions of coffees. Made tea, instantly regretted it. Surprising consideri…

I can usually find Twinings anywhere where I am in the US. How would you rate them?

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Tea bag tea is much finer dust compared to loose leaf of the same brand. So it brews faster (and worse). They change the blend to try and compensate. Tried Liptons once. On our very first trip to the USA, we needed a decent cup of tea. Visited Walmart, bought really expensive pack of Liptons which I think was one of just a very few teas among millions of coffees. Made tea, instantly regretted it. Surprising consideri…

> Surprising considering it's from Unilever who make the UK's best seller: PG, which is OK but a bit weak. Isn't PG generally considered to be one of the poorest quality teas available in the UK? (it sells well, but that's mostly because it's dirt cheap).

Alright, I left out OK as far as mass market bulk supermarket tea bag brands go.

Yorkshire Gold is distinctly better, Tetley and supermarket own brands are mostly about the same: OK depending on your taste, a couple of supermarket and Twinings that are a bit crap. There are cheaper brands that are awful. PG loose leaf is a refreshing blend, far better than bags, but it's not a premium tea.

The tea bag problem is mostly not enough tea and 1-2 minute brewing dust can't give the flavours that take 4-5 mins to come out. That and they all reduced the weight of the packs for the same number of tea bags. 20 or 25 years ago they all increased the number of tea bags for the same weight of tea.

Even slightly premium loose leaf is vastly better. e.g. Tesco's cheapest Finest - the non-estate specific one, or Booth's quality loose leaf is leagues ahead of PG loose leaf, let alone bags (and cheaper!) etc.

Locally I have a bloody marvellous specialist tea shop with far, far too many excellent own blends. :)

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Tea bag tea is much finer dust compared to loose leaf of the same brand. So it brews faster (and worse). They change the blend to try and compensate. Tried Liptons once. On our very first trip to the USA, we needed a decent cup of tea. Visited Walmart, bought really expensive pack of Liptons which I think was one of just a very few teas among millions of coffees. Made tea, instantly regretted it. Surprising consideri…

I can usually find Twinings anywhere where I am in the US. How would you rate them?

Not nearly enough tea in their tea bags. Here they were the first to reduce the weight of packs, and it hurt their blends. Hotels seem to like Twinings for some reason. Find a way to sneak an extra tea bag into the mug or pot. ;)

Their loose leaf are decent enough blends, but increasingly uncommon here.

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I've been using these tea balls in office environments: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51mTZ1eURrL... In terms of convenience I don't think it's significantly worse than sachets. But yeah, I do buy my own tea and store it in my drawer.

For those wanting to buy one, it's sold by IKEA as the Idealisk tea infuser, $1.99. Also available in lots of other stores, I guess. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/idealisk-tea-infuser-stainless-...

I've had one of these for what feels like centuries. Sturdy. Machine washable. Inexpensive as hell. Along with my single-serving french press also from Ikea[0] some of the most value per dollar I've ever got.

[0]: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/upphetta-french-press-coffee-ma...

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Loose tea is often cheaper and of better quality in my experience. If you brew tea a lot using a reusable strainer seems like a much better choice. I'm also entirely convinced that these plastic pyramid-shaped bags are pure marketing. Then again, I find Lipton tea absolutely terrible regardless of the shape of the bag.

Tea bag tea is much finer dust compared to loose leaf of the same brand. So it brews faster (and worse). They change the blend to try and compensate. Tried Liptons once. On our very first trip to the USA, we needed a decent cup of tea. Visited Walmart, bought really expensive pack of Liptons which I think was one of just a very few teas among millions of coffees. Made tea, instantly regretted it. Surprising consideri…

> "Tea bag tea is much finer dust compared to loose leaf of the same brand."

Right, the "tea dust" is what goes in to your regular cheap paper tea bags. But the contents of plastic tea bags are usually more "premium", basically the same as good quality loose-leaf tea.

Some super-premium brands like TWG use cotton tea bags, which give you the same high quality tea and brewing without the dose of micro-plastics.

Regardless of any potential health effects, I think plastic tea bags are a pointless single-use plastic that should be banned.

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I drink a decent amount of tea, and I feel like this is largely confined to the mid-grade teas that are fancier than your basic Lipton or Twinings, but not-so-fancy as to be loose-leaf. I'm thinking specifically of stuff like Harney and Sons, that you often see for sale at your nearest B&N or Starbucks: https://www.amazon.com/Harney-Sons-Hot-Cinnamon-Spice/dp/B00... I also see grocery-store versions at Target and suc…

Many cheap Lipton teas have this type of sachet. Using this plastic is a horrible trend and I'm not sure how it started. My worry was always more about leeching, but the microplastic results might even be more disturbing. Such a shame that a natural simple solution is compromised. I'm sticking to my looseleaf.

https://www.amazon.com/Lipton-Tea-Fruits-Rouges-Red/dp/B00JN...

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