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Re: WARP is here

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Post by zzzcpan »

rrss wrote: post #110
xorcist wrote: post #102

I fully understand why a company would like to launch this type of service. This is the free market after all, and it would make the company insanely valuable, should it succeed. However I do have an issue with the marketing behind it. While not said outright, there is a clear message here that due to some unspecified magic your network performance will increase. That's clearly stretching the laws of physics, at the…

> That's clearly stretching the laws of physics, at the very least This is not clear to me. Few mobile users have pings to anywhere pushing up against the speed of light, and the bandwidth/loss/routing is not close to being limited by physics.

No, he's correct here, it's an extra indirection and so overall it can only hurt performance, not improve it. For example, ISPs often have caching servers from Google installed and Google is the biggest traffic generator. If you route traffic through somewhere else you are going to reach different Google's caching servers that are farther away and over more congested links.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by gergles »

sp332 wrote: post #105
Fjolsvith wrote: post #93

All I have to say about this is 8chan.

You know why I'm comfortable with Cloudflare after the 8chan decision? It's because they were uncomfortable making it. Cloudflare is not a government. While we've been successful as a company, that does not give us the political legitimacy to make determinations on what content is good and bad. Nor should it. Questions around content are real societal issues that need politically legitimate solutions. https://blog.cl…

Yet they did it anyway, so it sounds like they sure did make the determination on what's good or bad, just accompanied with some hand-wringing in a blog post.

Real humility would have been not making the decision and instead lobbying for someone with the 'political legitimacy' to do so.

Cloudflare pretending like they're neutral in one corner while gleefully cutting off service to anyone who offends cancel culture in the other is gross, and they certainly shouldn't be praised for it.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by ummonk »

Congratulations on launching another great feature! I've been patiently on the waitlist for a very long time now, and it's great to see it out now!

Re: WARP is here

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Post by fooey »

I wonder if there's any chance they'll add an ad blocking feature.

I'd probably give WARP a shot but I'm not willing to give up DNS66 to switch over

Re: WARP is here

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Post by sascha_sl »

Argo is really cool... and also really unaffordable and solving a problem we wouldn't have in the first place if "net neutrality" was something tier 3 ISPs took seriously and stopped routing me across the world to save a few cents because one of their upstream provider provides cheaper bandwidth on a less congested route.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by atonse »

zackbloom wrote: post #49
atonse wrote: post #44

Great news! I'm still 155k on the warp waitlist since April. Is there a plan to push the waitlist along? I'd love to get my non-tech family on this.

Yes, we are running through the waitlist now. Our hope is to get everyone activated today.

Awesome, thank you :)

Re: WARP is here

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Post by ummonk »

mwcampbell wrote: post #40
aasdasdasdasd wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I look at friends and family, they use their phones for everything because Computer UX failed. And they will switch to whatever public WiFi is available because their expensive yet small mobile data plan. I can see how some people would benefit from this kind of VPN.

Another commenter on this thread said that there are already VPN services with Wireguard support and easy-to-use apps. Why not recommend those to friends and family?

Because I don't trust any random VPN service provider not to spy on my friends and family, the way I trust Cloudflare.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by vxNsr »

sp332 wrote: post #126
philliphaydon wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t think it was a bug. Just too much load. Will try again in a day or so.

On the contrary, filing a bug report now can help them get it sorted out before lots of other people run into the same problem.

He's saying the issue wasn't a specific bug, rather they just haven't turned on enough capacity.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by ikeboy »

Speedtest showing download speeds 3X slower (around 35MBPS vs 110).

On PIA, which costs me around $3/month when I buy yearly, I get around 75MBPS, it does hide IP, and I can select the country and region I want. Also it's available on my computer and on multiple devices at once.

I don't see the value of WARP+ at $4.99/month. Less features and slower.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by mwcampbell »

elithrar wrote: post #129
mwcampbell wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can believe that Cloudflare's current leadership are currently more conscientious than, say, Comcast's. But, especially post-IPO, what is that actually worth? I think that, worldwide, it's likely that Cloudflare is already bigger than Comcast. So, unless I'm given evidence to the contrary, I think Comcast is the lesser evil.

I'm consistently amazed at how many people [on HN...] over-estimate the size/scale of Cloudflare. Comcast is a huge, multi-billion $ operation with global contracts and broadcasting capabilities, and > 184,000 employees globally (that's more than Google, and even MSFT). That's not to say that we shouldn't be wary of Cloudflare for many other reasons; but that they have more influence over the Internet than one of the…

How many websites have you visited that are hosted or proxied by Comcast? The fact that Cloudflare is now mediating the connection on both ends is what makes it frightening.
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