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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by kingosticks »

kingosticks wrote: post #505
bartread wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite true. I bought it for the GPS, mapping, and battery life, but this was really a mistake. I have 8.5 inch wrists, and even though that's relatively chunky, the Garmin looks absolutely ridiculous. The thing about fitness and sleep tracking is it's only useful if you're wearing the device pretty much all the time, particularly for things like daily calorie burn. Whereas I found that there are so many contexts wher…

How does the data sync work on an Apple Watch if you don't have an iphone?

This was a legitimate question. If it turns out it's pretty useless without an iphone (that is not clear to me, hence the question) then that's another consideration. Something from Garmin (or the other competitors) will work fully regardless of what mobile phone / computer you've already invested in.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by jordache »

awadheshv wrote: post #544
WA wrote: post #485

I bet this is a great feature (and I do have an Apple Watch), but can we please hold for a sec here? This piece reads like an Ad. Furthermore, many comments here are about "I want to see my kids grow up". Now please, calculate the odds of: - you are in a terrible accident - there is no one around you to call an ambulance - you can’t call an ambulance yourself, because you are knocked out or can’t move I think the odd…

Here in India, if you have cellphone signal, you have people near you.

a country with 1.3b population, of course.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by 8659ad2c-7722-4 »

solatic wrote: post #398

FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…

> What if, when such watches become common, it becomes socially acceptable to just ignore people in life-threatening distress

I know it's just one incident in history, but something else to keep in the back of our heads is that in 2007 a man in Baghdad noticed an injured man by the side of the road, and stopped his car to help. He was killed by the US military for doing so; they were watching from an Apache helicopter and shot him dead for stopping to help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri...

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by systemtest »

mirthflat83 wrote: post #527
flatfilefan wrote: post #479

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Is this based on real accident statistics? If you ride motorcycle without gloves and jacket and crash you will have much more severe injuries to care about much more certainly. So I would doubt wearing a watch is a significant risk factor.

Answer: it is not based on real statistics nor experience

I'd love to send you some pictures of the titanium plate in my wrist. Motorcycle accident, went over the bars in an angle that my wrists didn't like. Not caused by a watch but ever since I stopped wearing watches. Adding 100+ grams of steel near such a delicate bone is a recipe for disaster.

Also, as a developer, I don't care as much about losing functionality in my lower body. My wrists, hands and brains however are how I make my money. Even though I have full disability insurance, I still would much rather keep working than sit at home.

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Post by ru999gol »

pdpi wrote: post #543
Lio wrote: post #513

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From the wikipage: > Meta-studies of the literature in the field have been performed showing evidence only for no effect or a potentially small effect. I'm an atheist so I take the "no effect" over the "small effect".

You don’t get to take the “no effect” over the “small effect” just because you’re an atheist. That is precisely what taking faith over data looks like!

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

A magical, invisible, omnipresent, omnipotent "all known laws of nature defying"-being that answers prayers, requires significantly more evidence than a small effect in some meta study.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by jeffhuys »

kingosticks wrote: post #571
kingosticks wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does the data sync work on an Apple Watch if you don't have an iphone?

This was a legitimate question. If it turns out it's pretty useless without an iphone (that is not clear to me, hence the question) then that's another consideration. Something from Garmin (or the other competitors) will work fully regardless of what mobile phone / computer you've already invested in.

While not yet there, Apple seems to be moving towards making the Apple Watch more stand-alone; their newest update, for instance, allows completely stand-alone apps to be downloaded from the App Store on-device.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by sib »

WA wrote: post #485

I bet this is a great feature (and I do have an Apple Watch), but can we please hold for a sec here? This piece reads like an Ad. Furthermore, many comments here are about "I want to see my kids grow up". Now please, calculate the odds of: - you are in a terrible accident - there is no one around you to call an ambulance - you can’t call an ambulance yourself, because you are knocked out or can’t move I think the odd…

Happens more than you'd think. My grandmother (perfectly healthy and living on her own at 92) slipped and fell in the bathroom. She broke her hip and could not get to the phone. No one knew for 18 hours, after which the initial relatively simple and repairable injuries has caused enough follow-on issues that, even with surgery, she never recovered, spent time in an intensive rehabilitation facility, and died.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by OrgNet »

ape4 wrote: post #404
solatic wrote: post #398

FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…

Does the watch display "911 called" or similar.

It probably also gives you ample time to cancel the call.
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