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Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Post by babuskov »

milankragujevic wrote: post #59
babuskov wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every ... bank ... MUST use IE to be able to read the card That is not true. Raiffeisen has their own e-banking solution that works with all major browsers. It even supports macOS. It used to support Linux before, but I haven't tested since 2016 or so, so I'm not sure about that. I have been using it since 2013 or so with Firefox exclusively. > It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digit…

You might have misunderstood me. You don't need IE to use the bank's services. The bank's employees have to use IE if they want to access ID card data. (though most banks use Win32 software exclusively, and don't use web apps, but Telenor Banka does, and they all use IE8). Wherever you need to read the ID card, you cannot use anything other than IE. For example, if you have to verify identity, you cannot use Firefox…

> Wherever you need to read the ID card, you cannot use anything other than IE.

You can. In fact, you don't need a browser at all to read an ID card. You can download the CELIK application from Ministry of Internal Affairs and simply read the ID card directly:

http://ca.mup.gov.rs/download-lat.html

> For example, if you have to verify identity, you cannot use Firefox to grant access to the ID card.

When you submit tax reports, you can use Firefox or Chrome. Here, take a look at the list of supported browsers:

http://www.poreskauprava.gov.rs/sr/e-porezi/preduslovi.html

The tax submission procedure requires that you insert the ID card in the reader and enter your PIN during the process. It reads the card using some middleware software and then opens the browser with a special URL that contains your session token. The only requirement is that you set your default browser properly. In my experience, this is what most users don't know how to do, so when the middleware opens IE they think IE is required.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Post by vardump »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #58
denkmoon wrote: post #5

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone still using IE isn't going to be persuaded away from it by a fancy blog post.

Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os any one serious about web development must support IE. The problem is when lazy developers use short cuts and make sites that only work on IE - quite how they mange to do this I have no idea.

Isn't IE marketshare only a few percent if that?

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

#63

Post by diffeomorphism »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #58
denkmoon wrote: post #5

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone still using IE isn't going to be persuaded away from it by a fancy blog post.

Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os any one serious about web development must support IE. The problem is when lazy developers use short cuts and make sites that only work on IE - quite how they mange to do this I have no idea.

> Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os

Which OS? The stock browser of Windows 10 is Edge not IE.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

#64

Post by milankragujevic »

babuskov wrote: post #61
milankragujevic wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might have misunderstood me. You don't need IE to use the bank's services. The bank's employees have to use IE if they want to access ID card data. (though most banks use Win32 software exclusively, and don't use web apps, but Telenor Banka does, and they all use IE8). Wherever you need to read the ID card, you cannot use anything other than IE. For example, if you have to verify identity, you cannot use Firefox…

> Wherever you need to read the ID card, you cannot use anything other than IE. You can. In fact, you don't need a browser at all to read an ID card. You can download the CELIK application from Ministry of Internal Affairs and simply read the ID card directly: http://ca.mup.gov.rs/download-lat.html > For example, if you have to verify identity, you cannot use Firefox to grant access to the ID card. When you submit ta…

I stand corrected. Thank you and sorry for the confusion. :)

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Post by throwmeback »

I recently worked on a project with a big finance/insurance company. Their IT still uses W7 and IE. "Well it just works for us"

Let's just say I was baffled - I really thought it's all a meme until I saw it with my own eyes.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

#66

Post by kekepepe »

reustle wrote: post #18
hathawsh wrote: post #8

Sigh... some services still require IE. https://www.frbservices.org/fedline-solutions/service-setup/... Not even Edge is acceptable. Then they throw in Java applets to broaden the attack surface.

Shinsei bank in Japan requires IE (not edge) to use online banking. Macs aren't supported.

That is not true, I am able to use Shinsei on Mac with Firefox just fine.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

#67

Post by dagw »

dpark wrote: post #14
fragsworth wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like a hit piece to get people to switch away from Edge in case they think it's the same thing as IE. Everyone still calls it "IE", even though they're referring to Edge.

> Everyone still calls it "IE", even though they're referring to Edge. Citation? Is this actually a thing? Honestly I don’t believe you, mostly because your scenario involves people actually using Edge in sufficient volume that “everyone calls it IE” is supposed to be a meaningful thing.

I bet if I asked around the office what the default browser that came with their new Windows 10 laptops that were rolled out last year, 90+% would say Internet Explorer. The icon even looks similar.

Now admittedly most of those people aren't using Edge, but that has a lot to with them thinking it Internet Explorer.

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