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Isn't the practice of the NSA just plainly treason? And why would it not be?
Hypothetically, a benevolent NSA would primarily develop cryptographic security tools for the populace.
(IIRC / I believe)
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Makes sense. So that means Snowden cannot be a traitor either or are there exceptions?
Not in the criminal sense. He violated several laws around the general topic of national security, he made the work of US intelligence agencies harder and he did endanger US troops abroad. He also helped along Putin's general interest of destabilization. So colloquially, there may be a case to call him a "traitor". It's impossible to clear him from the accusation that he worked with/for a foreign government, maybe ev…
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Hypothetically, a benevolent NSA would primarily develop cryptographic security tools for the populace.
True. But besides their interest in acquiring exploits, I think their data collection seriously collides with peoples amendment rights against arbitrary state surveillance. I know there are some judges and institutions that enabled this madness, but I think they might be guilty as well. These judges should be accountable to the public in theory. I am not saying the everyone working at the NSA is a criminal. But maybe…
When society has no great way of preventing, let's say for example, the Boston Marathon bombing or the Las Vegas Concert shooting, providing an appearance of activity, however mindless, like a bunch of ants feverishly running around when a stone is thrown into the anthill, is just the default setting of the security establishment. You can't blame them for that because we aren't yet psychologically, socially or politically sophisticated enough to do anything better.
But today after collecting and sitting on top of shitloads of useless data they themselves admit its unnecessary. You don't find who the best Tennis player in the neighborhood is by monitoring the entire neighborhoods conversations but by just watching the local tennis courts.
What you can do is ask why it took so long, with that nudge from Snowden, for the establishment to admit this. That kind of questioning prevents them jumping into further "we can do it so lets do it" bullshit projects down the road.
Isn't the practice of the NSA just plainly treason? And why would it not be?
The rabbit hole on this one is extremely deep. Hint: What agency did Snowden work for before the NSA?
Snowden's revelations proved once again that conspiracies are all false, because it is literally impossible for large numbers of people to keep their mouth shut. Exactly as we're told on forums, exactly as we're told on TV. This is how you know Epstein is also innocent and why it won't be investigated, because we know people cannot keep silent about committing crimes, therefore we know no crimes were committed.
Many conspiracies were true until 1 person opened his mouth, what's next? When will someone final admit to 9/11 being an inside job? We are just at a pre-Snowden/whistle-blower stage regarding 9/11.
This is a good article. Everyone has forgotten how much has changed since Snowden.
Some Laws was created.
Some revelations was made.
But even manipulations with elections did not kill any company
Snowden's revelations proved once again that conspiracies are all false, because it is literally impossible for large numbers of people to keep their mouth shut. Exactly as we're told on forums, exactly as we're told on TV. This is how you know Epstein is also innocent and why it won't be investigated, because we know people cannot keep silent about committing crimes, therefore we know no crimes were committed.
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Not in the criminal sense. He violated several laws around the general topic of national security, he made the work of US intelligence agencies harder and he did endanger US troops abroad. He also helped along Putin's general interest of destabilization. So colloquially, there may be a case to call him a "traitor". It's impossible to clear him from the accusation that he worked with/for a foreign government, maybe ev…
My initial statement was nothing else as colloquial and should be regarded as such of course. I would say implementing mass surveillance would equally make it impossible to clear the NSA from such accusation.
A lot is going wrong there, but there are limits imposed by the transparency and rule of law. Compare that situation to a country like the Russian Federation.