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WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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> but I predict WeWork is still going to be around in another decade. There's clearly a ton of demand for what they provide There's also a TON of rent-a-desk places. The big questions are: - What's the benefit to a large corporation doing this instead of lots of small companies? (The economies of scale need to outweigh the large corporate overhead.) - What's WeWork's secret sauce or first mover advantage?

Another value of their large network, WeWork has relationships with large companies (like Amazon) to manage satellite offices across the country. Some of those are just a corner of a WeWork carved out, and some of those are entire floors of office buildings that WeWork handles administrative, custodial, and break room for. I don’t know how much that impacts their profitability or value as a company, but it feels like…

Amazon also uses Spaces, whatever relationship they might have with wework isn’t exclusive.

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> What's the upside of having a giant corporation owning all coworking spaces, versus having many small and independent small businesses running and operating independent coworking spaces? Advantage to customers? Likely minimal. Advantage to the company itself: economies of scale and, likely more importantly, lack of competition allowing them to increase prices. The very clear trend across all sectors is that compani…

The advantage to me with Spaces (which I believe is owned by Regus) is that I can do guest co-working in any city they happen to be present - and since I travel extensively, the bigger the network the better, as far as I'm concerned. Sadly WeWork do not appear to offer this option (or didn't last time I looked).

Every business-traveller orientated hotel like Marriott or Hilton has a “business centre” in which you can rent anything from a small meeting room by the hour to a space for a 500-person conference for a few days, all fully serviced and catered by the hotel too.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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The advantage to me with Spaces (which I believe is owned by Regus) is that I can do guest co-working in any city they happen to be present - and since I travel extensively, the bigger the network the better, as far as I'm concerned. Sadly WeWork do not appear to offer this option (or didn't last time I looked).

Every business-traveller orientated hotel like Marriott or Hilton has a “business centre” in which you can rent anything from a small meeting room by the hour to a space for a 500-person conference for a few days, all fully serviced and catered by the hotel too.

I usually stay at Marriotts, and the 'business centres' are often woeful - if not 'closed for renovation'. Not only that, but renting a meeting room for a couple of hours costs the same as a Spaces membership for a month.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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post #272

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The advantage to me with Spaces (which I believe is owned by Regus) is that I can do guest co-working in any city they happen to be present - and since I travel extensively, the bigger the network the better, as far as I'm concerned. Sadly WeWork do not appear to offer this option (or didn't last time I looked).

WeWork offers this if you sign up for an American Express Platinum Business card and take advantage of the free year of WeWork benefit. I can (and do!) book any WeWork in the world any day - all for $0. Yes, that's right, the free AMEX WeWork plan is significantly better than any WeWork plan you can buy. That's start-up logic for you. I stopped paying WeWork after 1-2 years as a paying customer because their free pla…

Interesting - does this mean you have a _UK issued_ Amex Platinum Business? If so, I've not spotted this, despite having had one for years - and I need to rectify this!

Many of the benefits only apply to US-issued cards.

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i think you are looking for wework global access https://www.wework.com/workspace/on-demand/global-access

I wanted to sign up for this as an individual, but you need to be at least a 10 person company, so I couldn’t. No idea why they’d have that restriction

That's the hurdle I hit with it last time I looked.

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post #494

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WeWork offers this if you sign up for an American Express Platinum Business card and take advantage of the free year of WeWork benefit. I can (and do!) book any WeWork in the world any day - all for $0. Yes, that's right, the free AMEX WeWork plan is significantly better than any WeWork plan you can buy. That's start-up logic for you. I stopped paying WeWork after 1-2 years as a paying customer because their free pla…

Interesting - does this mean you have a _UK issued_ Amex Platinum Business? If so, I've not spotted this, despite having had one for years - and I need to rectify this! Many of the benefits only apply to US-issued cards.

I have a US-issued card.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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You are presuming that SOftBank believed in the fundamentals, and not in the proposition that if you carefully stage a series of cash injections at increasing valuations, the charismatic founder's PR halo will impart a shine onto the company's shares.

In which case, the major failing of We was that it did not go public fast enough. I wonder if we'll see this translate into time pressure for future startups to go public a little earlier before the bloom is off the rose.

That's a pretty good insight. Last year everyone was talking about the record number of private unicorns and how it was hot to wait longer than ever to ipo. This year everyone is talking about how all the unicorn ipos have been utter shit.

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Definitely just another failed tech bro pump 'n dump scheme headed to the dustbin of history. I seriously doubt that. I think they're overvalued too, but I predict WeWork is still going to be around in another decade. There's clearly a ton of demand for what they provide.

There is ton of demand for what they provide, but what they provide can easily be copied, and the copycats will not have a mountain of debt/investment caused by irrational drive for growth at any price that they need to pay back. Right now, no-one is competing against We because they are selling a dollar at 60 cents to their customers. The second they stop doing that, there will be a dozen clones. We is worthless.

Right now, no-one is competing against We

WHAT? there's quite healthy competition[1], which actually make money as opposed to We.

Granted, you don't get free beer and smarmy slogans. But competition is definitly on the market.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IWG_plc

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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> What's the upside of having a giant corporation owning all coworking spaces, versus having many small and independent small businesses running and operating independent coworking spaces? Advantage to customers? Likely minimal. Advantage to the company itself: economies of scale and, likely more importantly, lack of competition allowing them to increase prices. The very clear trend across all sectors is that compani…

Clearly false as there is no regulation to prevent the formation of very large companies (anti-trust laws don't apply). In fact companies tend toward giant behemoths in part BECAUSE of government regulation. Small companies can't afford the enormous fixed cost of compliance the way large ones can. Regulations are a huge incentive for market consolidation and large corporations love writing new barriers to entry regul…

I don't understand why you are getting downvoted. What you are saying is basic economics and I guess people in here are too ideologically invested to accept it. The claim that governments foster healthy competition when their effect is the exact opposite is ridiculous.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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I work in one of the companies WeWork acquired. The first time I heard Adan in a townhall I kept wondering, what kind of hell is happening to the world so that guy was sitting in a massive pile of money thanks to VCs. His nonsense and lack of business mindset were evident in every interaction and announcement. So IMHO he deserves that.

The issue is that now we have +10k people wondering about their future because they have bills to pay and a hard path ahead. Meanwhile, Galloway brags about how he was right during all this time and suggest massive layouts to save "investors."

I'm getting tired of this.

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