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Four Years in Startups

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Re: Four Years in Startups

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not all of us like avocados. edit: i mean, I do.... but not everyone does.

Absolutely, I mean, I never met one in person, but they definitely exist out there. I'm almost sure.

My college roommate didn't (and still doesn't)!

Re: Four Years in Startups

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The Mixpanel (if that is the company being referred to, seems pretty obvious) CEO's callous firing of someone who asked for a raise, then threatening anyone who disagreed with this decision with termination is horrendous (if true).

Re: Four Years in Startups

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I share a very similar experience to the author, though somehow even a little more extreme, including working in an entry level role for a certain tech mafia, living through maybe half of the events detailed in the new Uber book, working for the family of the president’s son in law, and then working at an absolute dumpster fire of a crypto company. Should probably write a book about it one day!

You can write a blog. I think people would take interest in those kinds of stories.

Re: Four Years in Startups

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TLDR: Founders are arrogant, self-serving assholes, spending other people's money; techies are ass-licking, ignorant avocado munchers. $$$ is being spent and harm is being done, while non-tech people struggle to make a living, but have a real life. Get out of the bubble.

Don't know why you are being downvoted but you your TLDR is pretty much spot on. I would suggest to any techie who finds this not true to leave the bay area for a couple months then come back. It is amazing how entitled everyone is over here.

What entitlement do you see?

Re: Four Years in Startups

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I don’t understand why all these from-the-inside vignettes overplay all the stereotypes so much. I guess it has to do with making it more exciting and exotic for your readers

Eh, the "stereotypes" seemed pretty close to my experiences. Maybe we've just been working at the goofier startups.

Re: Four Years in Startups

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I don’t understand why all these from-the-inside vignettes overplay all the stereotypes so much. I guess it has to do with making it more exciting and exotic for your readers

I have a feeling they don't overplay it. Writers of the HBO comedy series 'Silicon Valley' shared they don't use all real life examples because they were 'too hacky'.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/how-silicon-v...

Re: Four Years in Startups

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This is an accurate summary of the article. However, in my personal experience, it is not an accurate summary of the Bay Area. The startup scene may be truly this toxic, but I think such toxicity plagues any small, homogeneous group of people. It is hardly a tech problem. Indeed, mom-and-pop shop in small towns can be very abusive too. To offer a counter anecdote, my experience with FAANG has been very positive. My w…

A Facebook engineer just committed suicide last week due (allegedly) to workplace bullying made possible in part by his immigration status. Something like 45 women from Google just came forward claiming they were retaliated against for bringing up sexual harassment claims to HR this week. You can’t generalize the claim that things are different at FAANGs either.

I'm not sure how your logic works: "most meritocratic, efficient, and transparent" does not mean flawless.

Re: Four Years in Startups

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"The employees tried to be the C.E.O’s friends, but we were not his friends. He shut down our ideas and belittled us in private meetings; he dangled responsibility and prestige, only to retract them inexplicably. We regularly brought him customer feedback, like dogs mouthing tennis balls, and he regularly ignored us. He was expensive to work for: at least two of my co-workers met with therapists to talk through their…

Let's not dox the poor bastard

Re: Four Years in Startups

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> On the train home, I leaned into Ian and recounted the interaction. What sexists, I said. How dare they be so dismissive, just because I was a woman—just because I did customer support and was considered nontechnical. Ian cringed and pulled me closer. “You’re not going to like this,” he said. “But you were trying to talk shit about self-driving cars with some of the first engineers ever to build one.” I wonder who…

agile methodology -- first build a skateboard, then a scooter, then a bicycle then a Tesla -- they were probably building an MVP

ref: https://m.dotdev.co/the-agile-bicycle-829a83b18e7

Re: Four Years in Startups

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Great write up! I really enjoy hearing this perspective. I think it's so easy to get wrapped up a big dream that we lose perspective into what's important. Treating people with respect and doing the right thing for the employees, customer, and owners. A lot of these mistakes can be tied to inexperience, and I wouldn't be surprised if the average age of VC invested founders goes up when money thins out!

Couldn't have written it better myself, however the toxic element is when all these naive/entitled people make the same mistakes over and over and lead to people lives getting destroyed over and over again
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