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Re: iPadOS

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Post by grosswait »

philo23 wrote: post #285
markstos wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an occasional iPad user, I find the interface somewhat bewildering, even as a power user of other devices. I want to search to see if an app is installed. I expect an Overview screen that's easily accessible for this like Android, Gnome or Chrome OS, but on iOS I have to swipe left a few times? Weird. I want to switch wireless network I'm connected to. I correctly guess that I can swipe down to make a wireless ico…

You should be able to pull down on any page of the home screen to bring up the app search screen, rather than having to swipe all the way to the left. You can now also long press the wifi icon (twice) from the control centre in iOS 13 to quickly switch wifi networks without going into the settings app, you can also do the same with the bluetooth icon. A lot of this stuff is really hard to just discover though if you'…

How do you search if you don't remember the name?

Re: iPadOS

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Post by ehsankia »

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #269
ehsankia wrote: post #251

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Pixel 1 just received the Q updates and is still getting security update. Are you comparing premium Apple built phones against 400$ nexus phones which were co-made by Google just to have a vanilla device for development? Nexus line was never meant to be a high-end phone with good support.

Even Apple's $400 phone has been supported longer than the Nexus 4 was.

Apple doesn't have a 400$ phone, unless you're referring to 2 year old phone. And again, Nexus phones were not made by Google.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by reilly3000 »

artellectual wrote: post #311

I just got the iPad Pro and have been using the iPadOS beta for the past few months. I don’t know how I was doing without it before. I now have a place where I can sketch my architecture diagrams, wireframes, live sketching for my team when I work. Everything is in one place and does not get lost. I can plug it into a projector and write notes on things to explain things to my team. Doing presentations is easy. I now…

Have you looked into something like this? https://medium.com/@ow/its-finally-possible-to-code-web-apps... I would love to get to the workflow you've described.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by reilly3000 »

finkin1 wrote: post #5

I wonder why they aren't advertising mouse support. This seems like one of the most useful features to me. They didn't mention it on the keynote and I can't find it on their website anywhere. Any thoughts on why Apple wouldn't be pushing this as a major advancement for iPad?

The whole OS lacks a hover state, and that is a pretty fundamental aspect of mouse UI.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by reilly3000 »

puranjay wrote: post #53

I've been burned by two generations of Macbooks, and I honestly find the iPhones to be far inferior value to most mid-range Androids. But my 2016 iPad still remains one of the best devices I've ever owned. It's effortlessly useful and still as sharp as ever. Great to see Apple taking it more seriously.

I appreciate how slowly they depreciate. I've been able to resell my used Apple products year after year, consistently getting a solid price that I'd never get with a PC or Android device.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by tinodotim »

ehsankia wrote: post #332
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #269

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Even Apple's $400 phone has been supported longer than the Nexus 4 was.

Apple doesn't have a 400$ phone, unless you're referring to 2 year old phone. And again, Nexus phones were not made by Google.

The iPhone SE started at $400 and is now 3.5 years old. It will probably get another 2 major iOS releases. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_SE)

The Nexus 4 launched November 2013 and got it's last major update to 5.1.1 in May 2015 according to Wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4)

Re: iPadOS

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Post by Infernal »

chaboud wrote: post #305
dallen33 wrote: post #18

The list of supported devices is impressive. The iPad Air 2 came out in 2014. 12.9-inch iPad Pro 11-inch iPad Pro 10.5-inch iPad Pro 9.7-inch iPad Pro iPad (7th generation) iPad (6th generation) iPad (5th generation) iPad mini (5th generation) iPad mini 4 iPad Air (3rd generation) iPad Air 2

I noticed that my iPad mini 2 finally falls off the list, but that thing is somewhat ancient. However, my Thinkpad X220 (maybe circa 2011?) still runs Windows 10 and Ubuntu, allowing it to stay up to date on security patches. In a way, Apple's support levels are only impressive because we're inured to quick device expiration in other contexts (e.g. phones).

To be fair, mobile development is a few years behind laptop development, and it makes sense that it would plateau later (thought with the current generation of smartphones we may be reaching that plateau).

A 2011 MacBook Pro 13" is comparable to your X220 (dual core i7 available, 8GB supported RAM, Intel HD 3000 graphics) and while it does fall off the supported list for macOS Catalina (mid-2012 MBP is the earliest supported) there's no reason to expect it wouldn't run Windows or Ubuntu comparably to the X220.

When comparing (tablet) apples to (tablet) apples, I wonder if any of the tablets mentioned here are still supported in 2019 like your iPad mini 2 was? https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/best-android-tablets-septembe... It's a genuine question as I'm not that familiar with the Android ecosystem.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by gridlockd »

ogre_codes wrote: post #297
penagwin wrote: post #40

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Since apple markets their ipados for productivity as an alternative to a MacBook or a windows laptop - I'm not sure Linux can really be included. Simply put - Linux has never been focused on tablet UI UX or that kind of productivity, it's not a technical limitation sure but there's literally 0 polish on any kind of "streamlined tablet experience"

Smartphones, tablets, Windows, Macs, Linux... they are all similar products targeting marginally different markets. I use my iPad for the same things I used my Linux desktop for not long ago. There are some things one does better than the other, but ultimately there is much more overlap than differences. The bigger the difference in form factor, the bigger the difference in use cases. Also, less folks forget... Andro…

> I use my iPad for the same things I used my Linux desktop for not long ago. There are some things one does better than the other, but ultimately there is much more overlap than differences.

I really really don't get this. I like the iPad, but Apple wants to sell me this idea that the iPad is an actual* computer. It's not. It's a toy computer. It's fun. It's not serious. Stop pretending, Apple.

*) An actual computer lets you mark pages as executable.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by buildzr »

privateSFacct wrote: post #330
buildzr wrote: post #280

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You're right, keeping keys in SRAM and other trivial anti-tamper measures are way too expensive. Cutoffs are performed by the same IC. Should be trivial. This was a business decision for sure. Apple doesn't want anyone but Apple to work on their devices. Now maybe you can say that alone is good for resale, but it's extremely shitty for customers, especially when their attitude is to tell people they need a new board…

The issue w bogus undisclosed batteries was causing problems for apples brand rep. Many of the bulging / exploding batteries were not in the end apple. The lie you are spreading, that you can’t use non apple batteries is false. The phone will work fine, but apple will let you know it can’t model the batteries health. Having the phone recognize if the battery key has changed is a simple and effective way to manage thi…

> Many of the bulging / exploding batteries were not in the end apple.

This is incorrect. Apple issued a recall due to known issues with their own batteries! These are not 3rd party replacements.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/15-inch-macbook-pro-battery-...

As I pointed out there's fairly simple ways for them to resolve this without these practices. No where did I suggest that the batteries don't work at all. The extents people go to on this site to defend Apple's shitty anti-consumer behavior is utter insanity.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by WillPostForFood »

grosswait wrote: post #331
philo23 wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be able to pull down on any page of the home screen to bring up the app search screen, rather than having to swipe all the way to the left. You can now also long press the wifi icon (twice) from the control centre in iOS 13 to quickly switch wifi networks without going into the settings app, you can also do the same with the bluetooth icon. A lot of this stuff is really hard to just discover though if you'…

How do you search if you don't remember the name?

Search isn’t name match. E.g. search for “video” and YouTube will be returned.
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