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Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

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Post by paulcole »

kelnos wrote: post #181
paulcole wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that any different from someone thinking they have an inalienable right to any article/website they want?

If your server sends bits back to my computer when I request them, it is perfectly within my right to decide which of those bits I do and do not want to see.

This is like the people who say they can say what they want because of free speech.

If you're able to justify something because of a technicality and are intentionally ignoring the ethics of the situation and what is clearly right/wrong... well, that's not a good look.

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

#192

Post by paulcole »

shantly wrote: post #187
paulcole wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that any different from someone thinking they have an inalienable right to any article/website they want?

Make plain, no funny-business HTTP GET, server responds 200 and sends some text. Guess they wanted me to have it. I'll decide what I do with it, thanks.

Yeah I love this attitude. You know you're doing something that is unethical but you ignore that because you got 'em on a technicality.

Congrats.

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

#193

Post by pdimitar »

rsync wrote: post #128
obituary_latte wrote: post #17

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I have run pi-hole on the cheapest tier of Rackspace cloud server for 2+years now with great success. It’s wonderful. Just configure my routers dhcp to set my pi ip for dns and no ads anywhere (YouTube, streaming [except Hulu unfortunately], and general browsing). It’s especially nice now that it seems every company is offering their own streaming apps with ads. Recent example was I wanted to watch an action sports v…

"One thing to consider though is becoming a dns resolver for any random thing on the net. What I did for this was create a bash script that adds the visiting ip to iptables whitelist. Created an impossible-to-guess php page (pi admin uses php so it’s already installed and ready to go) which takes the REMOTE_ADDR and passes it to the bash script to add to iptables." I hesitate to mention this, as it causes heads to ex…

Pardon my ignorance: can you recommend a good learning material on port knocking?

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

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Post by chopin »

paulcole wrote: post #191
kelnos wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your server sends bits back to my computer when I request them, it is perfectly within my right to decide which of those bits I do and do not want to see.

This is like the people who say they can say what they want because of free speech. If you're able to justify something because of a technicality and are intentionally ignoring the ethics of the situation and what is clearly right/wrong... well, that's not a good look.

There's no ethics involved in third party ads whatsoever.

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

#195

Post by chopin »

donkeyd wrote: post #2

I can't find this anywhere, but does Pi-Hole have any sort of client side 'reload without blocking' functionality? If I were to implement this in my network and a user has issues with a page not loading/functioning correctly, I feel like they'd need my help to add the site to a white list, which would be pretty inconvenient.

There's a Firefox addon which can temporarily disable Pi-Hole.

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

#196

Post by paulcole »

chopin wrote: post #194
paulcole wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like the people who say they can say what they want because of free speech. If you're able to justify something because of a technicality and are intentionally ignoring the ethics of the situation and what is clearly right/wrong... well, that's not a good look.

There's no ethics involved in third party ads whatsoever.

You’re getting something you value (video, article, etc.) in exchange for looking at ads instead of paying money. If you don’t want to look at ads, don’t look at the content. Don’t hide behind server requests and technicalities.

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

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Post by modsiw »

boyter wrote: post #15

Just recently I experimented going without my pi-hole or any ad blocker software for 4 weeks to see what would happen. My goodness the internet is a dumpster fire without it. So many pages lagging and slow to load. Things I wanted to click that jumped when an ad loaded resulting in miss clicks. Annoying things following me around. It was especially bad on mobile with the GDRP/Cookie notices and ad's to the point that…

I wonder if the ads are now targeted more toward the idiot end of the spectrum as the only people without ad blockers...

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

#198

Post by shantly »

paulcole wrote: post #192
shantly wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make plain, no funny-business HTTP GET, server responds 200 and sends some text. Guess they wanted me to have it. I'll decide what I do with it, thanks.

Yeah I love this attitude. You know you're doing something that is unethical but you ignore that because you got 'em on a technicality. Congrats.

Technicality? Huh? I asked for a document and you sent it so now I'd better make sure I only read it with software that also requests every link in it and runs any code it finds? LOL no. No technicality about it.

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

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Post by Mister_Snuggles »

promofaux wrote: post #165
Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #35

The one thing that's holding me back on actually using Pi-Hole is the lack of flexibility. What I'd really like to see is the ability to do various things on a per-client basis. For example, one commenter wanted a simple "reload without blocking" functionality and the response was to use a bookmarklet plus the Pi-Hole API to disable it temporarily. This works, but the problem is that it disables it temporarily for ev…

Hi there, one of the Pi-hole Devs here. This is something we are very much looking into. Take a look at this PR[1] for more details! No ETAs as yet, of course, but it's something that has been asked about time and time again, and we think we may just have solved it... [1] https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/pull/2935

That's awesome! I'm excited to see what comes of this! I took a look at the changes and the amount of work here is impressive.

I'm going to guess that there are also major UI changes that will need to come along to make this feature usable. Maybe the release that incorporates everything could be Pi-Hole 5.0?

Re: Pi-Hole 4.3.2

#200

Post by beatgammit »

paulcole wrote: post #192
shantly wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make plain, no funny-business HTTP GET, server responds 200 and sends some text. Guess they wanted me to have it. I'll decide what I do with it, thanks.

Yeah I love this attitude. You know you're doing something that is unethical but you ignore that because you got 'em on a technicality. Congrats.

The same argument applies to DVR ad skipping and previews on movies. If your profit model depends on people not blocking advertisements, your profit model is broken.

I much prefer the way movies and podcasts so it, as in, having the advertisement as part of the content itself. Instead of plugging in ads on the side, podcasts have a small segment where the host mentions a product and gives their personal experience with it. Moves place products in the shot, which is also a kind of approval from the studio. Webpages, however, just throw in ads with no context, and it's completely jarring.

Part of the problem is that placing ads is much easier than working ad placement into an article, and another part is that paying for things online is a painful experience. I don't mind paying to remove ads, but I'm not going to sign up for a subscription service just to read an article without ads. I really hope something like GNU Taler becomes popular to make these types of microtransactions easier to manage. Even better, I would like something like Netflix, but for quality journalism where I pay a subscription for a variety of content.

I want content producers to get paid, I just don't like advertisements and juggling subscriptions.

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