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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Or, why hasn't someone made it possible to use an Apple watch on Android?

From what I've come to understand its possible to use the Apple Watch cellular without an iPhone but its a severely gimped experience.

You need an iPhone to set it up, update it, and otherwise manage it. To whatever degree it works without the phone there you’re still going to need one.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Please do not use code blocks for quotes, it creates long side-scrolling windows.

Can someone fix this? WHERE'S DANG, he's sniffing around all the time. It has to be one line of CSS.

Why would they fix something that's not a bug?

Prepending a line with two spaces is not intended for quoting people. It is intended for posting code in a comment.

If you're quoting someone, stick to the well-established standard of prepending with a > symbol.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Tip: the fall detection feature seems to be turned off by default. I just turned mine on. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944

Also of note: Fall detection is exclusive to the series 4 or above, which seems questionable. (I would be very surprised if the series 3 and 4 have significantly different accelerometer hardware)

Why would a different accelerometer surprise you? The entire SiP is different between the Series 3 and Series 4. One source say the accelerometer in S4 has higher dynamic range. [0]

[0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/13364/apple-announces-the-app...

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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they're trying to ask if there's a chance for false alarm (i think)

The first watchOS version that had this monitoring built-in seemed to be prone to false positives. However, the watch first asks you if you are ok and if you do not acknowledge so in a few seconds, then it dials out.

Right. The other day I accidentally slammed my watch into the wall and it started asking me if I was OK. You have a chance to say that everything is fine and that you don’t need help before it starts calling emergency services and telling people you’re in trouble.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I had an earlier model, and ditched it after I forgot to put it on one day, and realized I didn't care. Having to have it charge for a bunch each day, and it not really being designed for overnight wear (as I understand it) really hold it back. I bought a Fitbit Charge on impulse at an airport for a couple of hundred bucks, and have worn it every day since. I think I prefer it because the battery seems to last foreve…

> and it not really being designed for overnight wear (as I understand it) really hold it back. I have a first generation Apple Watch. This is one of the things that annoyed me after buying it: you aint sleeping with it on if you want it to running the next morning. I'm hopeful that batteries will get better and better, and eventually we'll be able to sleep with the watch on and have it track sleeping patterns, etc.

fwiw i have a series 4 and i sleep in it every night. much better battery life than the first gen

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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The specs for the watch specifically rule out heart attack detection, by the way. > Apple Watch cannot detect heart attacks. If you ever experience chest pain, pressure, tightness, or what you think is a heart attack, call emergency services immediately.

"What we list for legal purposes" and "what the device actually does" might not be the same thing. I imagine saying "my device detects heart attacks" gets the FDA involved and makes everything ten times more expensive...

Whether you officially list it or not, if your device is diagnosing and reporting heart attacks to people, the FDA will be involved sooner or later.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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In TFA, the (quoted) preceding sentences are repeatedly accentuating the severity of the crash and directly implying that the severity is the reason for the replacement. The severity has has nothing to do with the need to replace the helmet, i.e., it does not follow logically.

No, a non sequitur would go something like this: Bob was plantings some flowers. He had to replace his helmet. Not a non sequitur: Bob crashed his motorbike. He had to replace his helmet. It might have been better if they’d written something about how a helmet needs replacing after any impact, sure.

This is an interesting logic discussion. :-) Does the term non sequitur apply to correctly formed statements where the conclusion of the statement is incorrect? I would be inclined to agree with TheSpiceIsLife and say no. Because the article is based on limited sources, the article's conclusion about helmet replacement is incorrect, even if it's well-formed.

EDIT: Here's an interesting list of non sequiturs, many of which fit the same pattern as the article. I think loeg is probably right after all.

https://examples.yourdictionary.com/non-sequitur-examples.ht...

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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So it watches your bloodpressure or something? I figured it was the jerking-around. Maybe it looked to the watch like she had fallen down.

It watches the heartbeat, probably arrhythmias specifically. You can't monitor blood pressure with just a watch. You need a blood pressure cuff for that.

Does it watch heartbeat via the gyroscope? If so then that's a darn sensitive gyroscope.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I think the watch detected his fall (which was a result of the heart attack)

The specs for the watch specifically rule out heart attack detection, by the way. > Apple Watch cannot detect heart attacks. If you ever experience chest pain, pressure, tightness, or what you think is a heart attack, call emergency services immediately.

It absolutely can. It's more sensitive than equipment hospitals use. There's an ongoing data collection program to calibrate it for that purpose. But since it hasn't been approved by regulators for use as such, they'd be in legal trouble if they claimed otherwise.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I'd love to get my Mom and Apple Watch but getting her to switch to iPhone is probably a bridge too far. How come no Android watches have this functionality?

Some Garmin watches have this feature and work with Android.
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