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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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> Then his helmeted head hit the ground so hard it knocked him unconscious — hard enough for his Apple Watch to feel it. > “A hit that hard could have killed me if I weren’t wearing it,” Burdett said. He had to replace the helmet. Letter to the editor: the last sentence is a non-sequitur. You have to replace a bike helmet any time it takes an impact, even if it isn't "so hard," because even if it doesn't look damaged…

Same goes for child car seats. Some manufacturer actually replace them for free last time I checked.

If in a car accident, your auto insurance will cover the replacement cost. Ensure you include it in the claim.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #112

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Apple is undoubtedly a contentious company, and many of their fans are highly obsessive... I think OP is just letting people know that they're more if a critic than an obsessive fan, thus showing contrast with their praise of the feature.

> Apple is undoubtedly a contentious company Not by any vaguely reasonable metric when compared to other companies its size

What vaguely reasonable metrics might those be?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I wondered the same: is it embarrassing here to think Apple does various things well?

Apple has a long history of very enthusiastic fans that can at times crossover into being obnoxious. Apple is hardly unique in that but it does seem to be somewhat more prevalent for them. Some commenters likely don't want to be quickly dismissed as fawning fans lacking perspective of Apple's place in the world.

I’ll bite.

Apple’s detractors fit this bill far more than its fans do. The online hate Apple gets is nothing short of ridiculous compared to how responsible a corporate citizen they’ve been for as long as I can remember. Most of the time when I see Apple fans in a conversation, it’s countering badly informed anti-Apple circlejerking. One example that comes to mind is the whole Foxconn thing. Apple got massive amounts of backlash for the working conditions there, when virtually every other manufacturer uses them too and received only a handful of the same criticism. Apple dramatically tightened their standards and expanded their vetting process for third-party suppliers (which were already in place). Everyone else? Next to nothing or actually nothing.

It’s completely backward in the same way as the stereotype of vegans. As someone who spent some time as a vegetarian, I quickly realized that most vegans/vegetarians try not to make a big deal out of their dietary choices. On the off chance someone does ask about it, they quickly explain their motivations and hope to move on. Then the next hour of conversation involves something like the omnivores trying to list off every animal type they’ve ever eaten, alphabetically. Alligator, beef (wait, does beef count? Probably not, okay let’s say bison), cuttlefish (wait do individual fish count or no?), etc.

Apple fans (and vegans) get a bad rap because they’re in the minority and those in the majority are simply used to the status quo.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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You must be fun at parties

Haha, i always get a chuckle out of that phrase :) I’ll leave it up to my fellow party-attendees to decide ;)

I'd be down for a party. When and where?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #209

You say it’s a non sequitur and immediately restate the necessity to replace a helmet that’s taken an impact. I don’t reckon that’s how a non sequitur works: A non sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn't follow logically from the previous statement.

In TFA, the (quoted) preceding sentences are repeatedly accentuating the severity of the crash and directly implying that the severity is the reason for the replacement. The severity has has nothing to do with the need to replace the helmet, i.e., it does not follow logically.

No, a non sequitur would go something like this:

Bob was plantings some flowers. He had to replace his helmet.

Not a non sequitur:

Bob crashed his motorbike. He had to replace his helmet.

It might have been better if they’d written something about how a helmet needs replacing after any impact, sure.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I really want an Apple Watch for this and the EKG / Heart stuff. But I hate the idea of having another bit of technology on my wrist when I already have the iPhone with me. I like watches, the mechanical kind. I love them as the art of design and as fashion item to be match to what you are wearing (when appropriate). I do not want to give that up. In the end I will likely give in and get the Apple Watch just because…

I had an earlier model, and ditched it after I forgot to put it on one day, and realized I didn't care. Having to have it charge for a bunch each day, and it not really being designed for overnight wear (as I understand it) really hold it back. I bought a Fitbit Charge on impulse at an airport for a couple of hundred bucks, and have worn it every day since. I think I prefer it because the battery seems to last foreve…

> and it not really being designed for overnight wear (as I understand it) really hold it back.

I have a first generation Apple Watch. This is one of the things that annoyed me after buying it: you aint sleeping with it on if you want it to running the next morning.

I'm hopeful that batteries will get better and better, and eventually we'll be able to sleep with the watch on and have it track sleeping patterns, etc.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #209

You say it’s a non sequitur and immediately restate the necessity to replace a helmet that’s taken an impact. I don’t reckon that’s how a non sequitur works: A non sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn't follow logically from the previous statement.

In TFA, the (quoted) preceding sentences are repeatedly accentuating the severity of the crash and directly implying that the severity is the reason for the replacement. The severity has has nothing to do with the need to replace the helmet, i.e., it does not follow logically.

Also it's important distinction because mightni imply to reader they wouldn't otherwise have to replace a helmet which is dangerous.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is undoubtedly a contentious company, and many of their fans are highly obsessive... I think OP is just letting people know that they're more if a critic than an obsessive fan, thus showing contrast with their praise of the feature.

> Apple is undoubtedly a contentious company Not by any vaguely reasonable metric when compared to other companies its size

A search now for “Apple iPhone labor” brings up recent articles describing issues with Apple’s sub-contractors.

Size seems less relevant than the image Apple’s projected and its profits.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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You say it’s a non sequitur and immediately restate the necessity to replace a helmet that’s taken an impact. I don’t reckon that’s how a non sequitur works: A non sequitur is a conclusion or reply that doesn't follow logically from the previous statement.

You must be fun at parties

Is there any "rebuttal" less convincing?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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No. You have to really take a hit -- and you have to fail to cancel the 60 second (very loud and annoying) countdown, too.

I can think of a lot of things you can do that will make the portion of your body that the watch is attached to take a really hard hit. How does it not have a high false positive rate?

Exactly. If it is just detecting falling down from standing position, I can imagine several things causing that
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