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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wondered the same: is it embarrassing here to think Apple does various things well?

Apple has a long history of very enthusiastic fans that can at times crossover into being obnoxious. Apple is hardly unique in that but it does seem to be somewhat more prevalent for them. Some commenters likely don't want to be quickly dismissed as fawning fans lacking perspective of Apple's place in the world.

Yes, this is why I qualified my comment as I did.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Then his helmeted head hit the ground so hard it knocked him unconscious — hard enough for his Apple Watch to feel it. “A hit that hard could have killed me if I weren’t wearing it,” Burdett said. He had to replace the helmet. Sigh. Bicycle helmets prevent neither concussions nor death: by design, according to all epidemiological studies and according to the manufacturers of bicycle helmets. https://www.badscience.ne…

You are misrepresenting the research. The research is regarding the effect of public policy (making it illegal to bike without a helmet) on bicycle accidents.

> With regard to the use of bicycle helmets, science broadly tries to answer two main questions... “what is the effect of a public health policy that requires or promotes helmets?” and... “what is the effect of wearing a helmet?”

> The linked paper by Dennis and colleagues investigates the policy question and concludes that the effect of Canadian helmet legislation on hospital admission for cycling head injuries “seems to have been minimal

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #28

and soon, people will be scared to even consider going for a jog without a device like that on their wrist. The more time passes the more i realize how much the saying « the road to hell is paved with good intentions » is true.

It seems highly likely to me that the Culture of Fear that pervades affluent western societies will exactly lead to what you predict.

And those of us that do not wear a permanent tracking device will have some sort of financial (insurance rates) and emotional punishments (peer pressure/blackmail) inflicted on us.

Speaking for myself, I'm ready to die when its time. If my body is so weak and knackered that I cannot even go for a bike ride without medical assistance then I reckon it's time to shuffle off this mortal coil and make way for someone else.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #94

I'd love to get my Mom and Apple Watch but getting her to switch to iPhone is probably a bridge too far. How come no Android watches have this functionality?

Or, why hasn't someone made it possible to use an Apple watch on Android?

From what I've come to understand its possible to use the Apple Watch cellular without an iPhone but its a severely gimped experience.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #110

Why does everyone who praises Apple on HN qualify it with the fact that they don’t like Apple for other reasons? Also, Apple is probably the best corporate citizen of any company its relative size in history.

I praise Apple’s largely charitable, low-ROI intense commitment to systemwide accessibility whenever possible. They are light-years ahead of everyone else in that department.

Is it low ROI if it allows them to gain nearly all of that segment of the population's market share? But yes, they are very good at accessibility.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #47

How probable is it that Apple planted this article? Its great marketing after all. EDIT: to the downvoters: question everything.

It depends on what you mean by planted. For "some Apple PR person called or e-mailed" then, yes, the chance is non-zero. That's part of how journalism works. A story that's both true and interesting should be published, and it also benefitting some company should have as little impact as when it hurts that company, i. e. none.

If you're talking about a Seattle Times journalist or editor literally being bribed into running the story, you've gone off the deep end. Any such attempt by Apple would give some journalist a once-in-a-lifetime chance to expose a major scandal. It would expose Apple, and any journalist and their publications to risks far larger than whatever the value of a positive, but rather minor, story in a second-tier US newspaper is worth, etc.

"question everything" is stupid advise. Do you question if water isn't a deadly poison every time you drink it? Do you verify your spouse's DNA every time you see them, to prevent them being replaced by imposters?

Of course not, because it's impossible (also insane). Try establishing the usefulness of, say, vaccines from first principle: it would require running hundreds of clinical trials, all by yourself (don't trust anyone!), at costs in the billions of dollars, and taking far longer than your life.

And remember that you will also somehow need to convince yourself of the power of whatever statistics you use in those trials. You need to redo everything, all the way back to, at best, "parallel lines don't intersect". Because that Pythagoras wasn't even considered trustworthy by his compatriots, so why should you?

Realistically, you, like everyone, make thousands of decisions every day and need heuristics to get anything done. Most often, those heuristics involve some system of establishing trust by, for example, remembering previous interactions with people or newspapers or other institutions. It just so happens that you think you come across more interesting on the internet by pretending (or actually) trusting a different set of sources than society at large, i. e. conspiracy theorists pseudonymously ranting about the "mainstream media", instead of that media.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to read your cousin died this way. I don't understand. The Apple Watch told him his heart isn't working right - automatically calling emergency services - and he also called his wife to let him know the watch says there is an emergency with his heart? Or was it that he too passed out, the Apple Watch called emergency services, who resuscitated him enabling him to call his wife?

> and he also called his wife to let him know the watch says there is an emergency with his heart The watch will call emergency services, then it will text your emergency contact(s) and let them know you've experienced a hard fall. I don't know exactly how, in this instance, that was then converted to a voice call. Edit: I see in another comment that he initiated a call himself because he was conscious enough to do s…

His wife may have called him back in response to the text

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Tip: the fall detection feature seems to be turned off by default. I just turned mine on. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944

I think its turned off by default if you are under a certain age - 60?

> If you've entered your age when you set up your Apple Watch or in the Health app and you're age 65 and over, this feature automatically turns on.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944

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