Live data from Hacker News

Talos: OS for Kubernetes

talos-systems.com

1–10 of 79 posts

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#3
Security wise sounds a bit light. I like the idea but I'd be more comfortable with a more security-first approach instead of "we are infra people" as we know how that usually ends.

I'll be following the project closely as I think the idea is good.

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#4
OS for K8s? I'm getting CoreOS vibes.

Sounds neat, but is it really needed? K8s doesn't really care about what it is running on. Not sure what problems it would solve. And might create others (compliance?)

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#5
while an 'os for kubernetes' would be interesting, the documentation doesn't seem to really explain how:

"Talos lets you treat the cluster as the machine, so you can focus on your applications instead of managing the OS."

all the examples seem to basically be kubectl, etc. commands with different syntax. How exactly is this an 'operating system' and not 'yet another kubernetes build / deployment utility'?

Maybe it's there. I don't see it from a cursory glance (read: clicked 10-20 pages) of the docs. Or, curmudgeonly old me is expecting the term 'operating system' to mean something else? idk. Happy to be corrected.

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#6

OS for K8s? I'm getting CoreOS vibes. Sounds neat, but is it really needed? K8s doesn't really care about what it is running on. Not sure what problems it would solve. And might create others (compliance?)

Last I checked k8s required you to have swap disabled and some cgroups settings configured. As I recall, installing Kubernetes was quite difficult, and having something that's ready to go sounds great.

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#8
post #6

OS for K8s? I'm getting CoreOS vibes. Sounds neat, but is it really needed? K8s doesn't really care about what it is running on. Not sure what problems it would solve. And might create others (compliance?)

Last I checked k8s required you to have swap disabled and some cgroups settings configured. As I recall, installing Kubernetes was quite difficult, and having something that's ready to go sounds great.

Installing Kubernetes has gotten easier since the time you last looked at it then. Having used Kubeadm and then RKE from Rancher, I can get a 3 node (non-HA) cluster up in under 10 minutes. This is on regular RHEL 7.4 machines when I last did this in a non-automated way.

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#9
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last I checked k8s required you to have swap disabled and some cgroups settings configured. As I recall, installing Kubernetes was quite difficult, and having something that's ready to go sounds great.

Installing Kubernetes has gotten easier since the time you last looked at it then. Having used Kubeadm and then RKE from Rancher, I can get a 3 node (non-HA) cluster up in under 10 minutes. This is on regular RHEL 7.4 machines when I last did this in a non-automated way.

How difficult is an HA cluster? Because that’s more of a fair test. Setting up a dev-only instance of anything ought to be easy.

Re: Talos: OS for Kubernetes

#10
If there are any folks here from Talos, I think there's a lot of confusion about what it is, where it fits in the stack and so on.

I think part of the confusion comes from the scarcity of diagrams. I personally also find it helpful to have design motivations laid out. There is a list of "capabilities and benefits", but it would help me to understand what the current state of the world before Talos is added to it.

Post reply on HN