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Re: iPadOS

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Post by artellectual »

I just got the iPad Pro and have been using the iPadOS beta for the past few months. I don’t know how I was doing without it before.

I now have a place where I can sketch my architecture diagrams, wireframes, live sketching for my team when I work. Everything is in one place and does not get lost. I can plug it into a projector and write notes on things to explain things to my team. Doing presentations is easy. I now pretty much only use my MacBook Pro for coding. Almost every other task is done on my iPad Pro.

My 2 most used apps at this point are Concepts and Flow by moleskine.

It’s become a boon to my workflow.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by alistairSH »

peatmoss wrote: post #265
alistairSH wrote: post #197

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Two questions... does she use Lightroom or another photo editing/management tool? Does she shoot raw, or just jpg? If she isn't using Lightroom or shooting raw, the siblings cover it. Just use Apple Photos with iCloud backup. If she wants most of the photos in full-size on local disk, buy the largest capacity iPad you can. If she is using Lightroom, they have their own cloud storage that is included (or discounted?)…

I think she shoots in JPG because of memory budget. A family friend talked her into buying some kind of photo management / photo touch-up application (can’t remember its name), but I think it mostly just makes her angry because it took over as the default handler for photos on her computer, and her computer is too old and slow to run the software acceptably. How seamless is the iCloud backup when the total volume of…

The iCloud photo backup work very well, in my experience. My phone and older iPad are lower capacity and have to keep optimized (smaller) photos local. The full size images are downloaded automatically when viewed in Photos.

As noted by another post, iCloud will delete a photo from the whole system if deleted on one device, so you may want periodic backups elsewhere. I just drag the entire photo library file (MacOS keeps the library, photos included, in a single “file”) from my Mac to an external drive. Can’t speak to the best way to do this from an iPad, but with the new external drive support, that might be easy?

Re: iPadOS

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Post by newscracker »

neogodless wrote: post #85
ckastner wrote: post #44

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> When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead Google keeps their own hardware updated quite well, I liked the monthly security updates. With regards to the rest of the tablet market, basically only Samsung and Lenovo are left, and Samsung lost me as a customer a long time ago. I've been looking at the iPad Air 3 recently and while it looks nice, I just fell in love wi…

My personal pet peeve about Android updates is that they start the clock the day that they release the product, instead of say, starting the doomsday clock on the day they discontinue the product. So if you happen to wait 12 months for the price to drop from $800 to $500, you lose 12 months of software support. (I bought a Pixel 3 this spring when it was on sale for $400, but support ends in 2 years - October 2021.)

> My personal pet peeve about Android updates is that they start the clock the day that they release the product, instead of say, starting the doomsday clock on the day they discontinue the product. So if you happen to wait 12 months for the price to drop from $800 to $500, you lose 12 months of software support.

It works the same with Apple devices too, though the supported period has typically been longer than in the Android world. For example, the iPhone 8 (introduced in 2017) that Apple continues to sell today as the lowest priced iPhone wouldn’t get five years of software updates from today. It’d likely get its last update sometime in 2023, before iOS 17 is released (assuming that iPhones usually get software updates for about five plus years).

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Post by mcsonka »

p1necone wrote: post #310
nessus42 wrote: post #286

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> I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists??? Apple products have been like this for ages. I.e., they present a "simple" interface for the "typical" user, and then they provide "advanced" features for the "power user" that are only accessible via keyboard shortcuts, or what have you. (E.g., doing a screenshot on MacOS is via Command-$.) Their success in achieving the right balance, how…

I'm utterly bewildered that there's no official documentation of this stuff though. This seems to be common with a lot of modern software too. I remember when google maps changed from having a from location box and a to location box to just letting you type "from address A to address B", which is pretty nifty. However this was never actually documented so I spent months pressing randomly to get the old UI up (it stil…

> I'm utterly bewildered that there's no official documentation of this stuff though. This seems to be common with a lot of modern software too.

In iBooks you can download all the user guides for all devides

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Post by throwaway413 »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #304
throwaway413 wrote: post #301

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Here's my setup: 1) iPad Pro 256gb 11" 2) Apple keyboard case 3) Apple magic keyboard 2 w/ number pad (when I need to really get into it) 4) DigitalOcean VM instance 5) Termius ssh iOS app 6) Neovim on the VM, or sometimes I pull out VS Code via code-server [1] and exposed via #7 7) Custom domain name w/ nginx serving up my projects and services from the VM 8) AirPlay via my Apple TV to any connected displays [1] htt…

Blink is by far the best ssh/mosh app I have found. mosh is a gamechanger if you use mobile data and the interface of the app is the best implementation of a shell I came across so far. If you haven't tried it yet it's worth looking at. Steep price tag but justified by how much you use it.

I have read about it but have yet to give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation!

Update: just tried it, and holy smokes, what a difference. Mosh feels local. And Blink is super cool too, I like the CLI-style menus.

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Post by wlesieutre »

newscracker wrote: post #309
wlesieutre wrote: post #101

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A lot of discovery on desktop computers was by hovering over stuff for tooltips or poking around in menus. Touch devices don't have that, so you get the basic functionality exposed, but other stuff isn't as discoverable. I don't think this is as much of a problem as people make it out to be. They've managed to keep the iPad just as accessible to everyone, and they prod you occasionally with notifications from the Tip…

> As far as moving a URL from a Safari tab to Gmail, why not just copy and paste it? Tap once on the URL bar, the keyboard pops up with all the text selected, and there's a copy button right there. Or you can tap on the selected text to bring up the cut/copy/paste buttons. Not the GP, but I can think of one reason not to copy paste, which is to avoid overwriting whatever’s already in the clipboard. However bad the di…

RE: drag and drop, works on my machine

https://imgur.com/NRNCrzq

Taking it one step further, the screen recording was uploaded by drag and drop from Photos to Imgur (the webpage in Safari, not an app).

You just need to get used to the fact that “press and hold” is an action now, just like we’ve all come to accept tap, swipe, and pinch. Sure, it’s not as much of a direct physical metaphor as those, but fundamentally there’s only so much room for functionality with a finger on a piece glass. If people want more advanced features than the copy/paste from iPhone OS 3, I think it’s fair to expect them to learn one new thing.

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Post by earthicus »

Spivak wrote: post #282
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #277

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It's funny because this was one of the big issues I kept hearing (and agreed with myself) about Windows 8 - all the things that can happen when you hover in the corners and the hideous "charms" bar. I really REALLY wish buttons would come back in style.

The problem with buttons is that they’re visual clutter once you learn the gesture. This is a yet unsolved problem with making an interface discoverable but having it disappear once discovered without having two separate UIs. Can you imagine if there was a persistent button at the top of your screen that said “Open Notifications?”

The right-click mouse gestures in Maya 3d are one example of solving this problem nicely. If you do it at normal speed, you see & select items on the context menus and submenus. But as you learn the gestures that form from making these selections you can execute them rapidly and the context menus don't need to be displayed. It's a perfect example of training you to use an advanced feature with an easy learning curve, then letting the 'training wheels' come off on a case by case basis, no change in settings needed!

Does anyone happen to know of any other applications that use this kind of UI, or even better, a windows utility that adds this kind of functionality across the OS, building custom context-menus for each application?

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Post by mwarkentin »

ogre_codes wrote: post #263
soup10 wrote: post #86

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they are trying to hard to force gestures and touch controls, just support wireless mouses

These are different things. You should first and foremost be able to do everything on the iPad (or any touch device) with touch and/ or gestures. As soon as you require a mouse (or stylus, trackpad/ whatever) on a tablet you've screwed up. The whole beauty of a tablet is in its portability. Having to rely on a mouse or trackpad screws that up. That said, mouse support for the iPad can and absolutely should be much be…

They added mouse support with this release. It’s an accessibility feature, and it moves a “fake finger” as your control rather than a precise mouse pointer but apparently it works.

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Post by AlphaSite »

markstos wrote: post #276
crooked-v wrote: post #257

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> you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists???

As an occasional iPad user, I find the interface somewhat bewildering, even as a power user of other devices. I want to search to see if an app is installed. I expect an Overview screen that's easily accessible for this like Android, Gnome or Chrome OS, but on iOS I have to swipe left a few times? Weird. I want to switch wireless network I'm connected to. I correctly guess that I can swipe down to make a wireless ico…

Google home is pretty mediocre with basic commands, especially things like “turn on the lights”, it just starts some random song on Spotify.

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Post by tolmasky »

fragmede wrote: post #306
tolmasky wrote: post #184

Apparently as part of the "desktop class" browser experience in iPad OS, Safari lost its ability to double-tap to zoom. This is a feature I use on basically every single webpage, including when I am browsing on an actual desktop computer. Chrome's lack of this feature kept me on desktop Safari for ages. I can't believe they've taken it out. It significantly deteriorates my browsing experiencing. And for what? To add…

Fwiw Chrome on OS X supports the zoom mode you are talking about. (I'm not talking about ctrl-+ text resizing zoom.) On a mighty/apple mouse, it's a triple tap gesture iirc.

Yes, it wasn’t clear from my post, but once Chrome got this feature I switched.
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