I really want an Apple Watch for this and the EKG / Heart stuff. But I hate the idea of having another bit of technology on my wrist when I already have the iPhone with me. I like watches, the mechanical kind. I love them as the art of design and as fashion item to be match to what you are wearing (when appropriate). I do not want to give that up. In the end I will likely give in and get the Apple Watch just because I want to be around long enough to see my kid grow up.
Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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#112Why does everyone who praises Apple on HN qualify it with the fact that they don’t like Apple for other reasons? Also, Apple is probably the best corporate citizen of any company its relative size in history.
Apple is undoubtedly a contentious company, and many of their fans are highly obsessive... I think OP is just letting people know that they're more if a critic than an obsessive fan, thus showing contrast with their praise of the feature.
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
#113How probable is it that Apple planted this article? Its great marketing after all. EDIT: to the downvoters: question everything.
Well, does the watch not work as advertised?
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Interesting, how much does the Apple Watch fall detection cost monthly?
$10/month if you factor in the need for a cellular plan for the watch? $15/month for a fall detection device vs $399 + $10/month buys a lot of months. Yes, I know the Apple Watch does more, but I wasn't the one who tried to make the comparison. Does the Apple Watch stay on the phone with you until EMS arrives? Is it capable of giving medical information to dispatch? Another "Apple was the first to do this!"... "No it…
I had no idea some services could be so expensive. Life Alert starts at $50/month. Depending on what you get from it, the Apple Watch would be cheaper in less than a year. Interesting!
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
#115Why does everyone who praises Apple on HN qualify it with the fact that they don’t like Apple for other reasons? Also, Apple is probably the best corporate citizen of any company its relative size in history.
This applies to praise of any FAANG company now. Tech giants all harvesting data gather plenty of muck.
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This is one seemingly tiny, new feature of the device. He might not have bought the device for this feature, or even have known that it was there. Or rather, the people reading might have not bought the device for this feature, or even have known that it was there. I think this is what makes the story popular enough to be going around.
FWIW, unless you are over 60 it's not enabled by default. Presumably this is to minimize false alarms, but if you want this feature enabled, you should make certain it's enabled. Here's how: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944
s/over 60/under 65/?
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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It looks like it also sent a text to his son.
Also does Apple Watch require ownership of iPhone?
As I mention above, the way I did this was to buy a low-cost/locked/unactivated iPhone 6s and paired the watch to it. It thus provides in-home monitoring of such events; I can confirm that it works well since it got inadvertently activated a couple of times (the first watchOS version with this feature seemed to be prone to false positives) and I had to talk to the emergency agent on her behalf to state that everything was ok for now.
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The specs for the watch specifically rule out heart attack detection, by the way. > Apple Watch cannot detect heart attacks. If you ever experience chest pain, pressure, tightness, or what you think is a heart attack, call emergency services immediately.
"What we list for legal purposes" and "what the device actually does" might not be the same thing. I imagine saying "my device detects heart attacks" gets the FDA involved and makes everything ten times more expensive...
Differentiating between cardiac arrest and taking the watch off your wrist may be interesting. And I kinda wonder how good any single-lead EKG would be at detecting a heart attack when your heart is still beating. Even the expensive multi-lead machines usually auto-diagnose me with an old infarction, which is false.
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> or diagnose Afib is like bonus time Careful with that as an assumption: > In people younger than 55, Apple Watch’s positive predictive value is just 19.6 percent. That means in this group — which constitutes more than 90 percent of users of wearable devices like the Apple Watch — the app incorrectly diagnoses atrial fibrillation 79.4 percent of the time. (You can try the calculation yourself using this Bayesian cal…
In this case, it's better to have a false positive diagnosis than a false negative.
Why is that? IANAPhysician, but this seems like a fairly rare malady in this age group. Do we really want all of these people rushing to the hospital? If no one trusts the Apple Watch's diagnosis, how useful could it be?
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Please do not use code blocks for quotes, it creates long side-scrolling windows.
Can someone fix this? WHERE'S DANG, he's sniffing around all the time. It has to be one line of CSS.
> It has to be one line of CSS.
Yes, but that one line is very long and nobody knows how it ends.