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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As well as what the sibling commentors have pointed out, Life Alert also never bothered to partner with a company that would put their system into a piece of consumer-electronics that the average healthy (maybe even young ) adult would buy for themselves. Nobody wants to wear a LifeAlert bracelet and a watch/fitness-tracker; they want their watch/fitness-tracker to just have that functionality . And so they make a ch…

This is the key thing. There are many good ideas that exist out there that are "unknown" because the product they are in misses some aspect of how consumers would wish to consume them. My favorite was that the Tesla Roadster wasn't the first electric car, but it was the first that I could see myself buying at some point. The nice thing about this being a feature of the watch is that the watch brings a bunch of great…

> or diagnose Afib is like bonus time

Careful with that as an assumption:

> In people younger than 55, Apple Watch’s positive predictive value is just 19.6 percent. That means in this group — which constitutes more than 90 percent of users of wearable devices like the Apple Watch — the app incorrectly diagnoses atrial fibrillation 79.4 percent of the time. (You can try the calculation yourself using this Bayesian calculator: enter 0.001 for prevalence, 0.98 for sensitivity, and 0.996 for specificity).

> The electrocardiogram app becomes more reliable in older individuals: The positive predictive value is 76 percent among users between the ages of 60 and 64, 91 percent among those aged 70 to 74, and 96 percent for those older than 85.

(Source: https://www.statnews.com/2019/01/08/apple-watch-iffy-atrial-...)

That being said, I will not at all dispute the ECG tools as very valuable.

https://www.ajmc.com/conferences/acc-2019/giant-study-sugges... - discusses the findings in the context of the Apple Health "Study" announced at one of their events.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Headline is misleading. The watch detects falls and calls 911 based on that, not based on "unconscious".

I disagree. When Apple Watch detects an event that it considers as a fall, it asks the wearer if he/she is ok. Failure to respond then triggers the 911 call. So being unconscious had a lot to do with it.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I'd love to get my Mom and Apple Watch but getting her to switch to iPhone is probably a bridge too far. How come no Android watches have this functionality?

Or, why hasn't someone made it possible to use an Apple watch on Android?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Curious - does Apple Watch call 911 if you flop onto bed and start napping away?

There was a good bit by Joanna Stern in the Wall Street Journal where she hired a professional stuntwoman; she was unable to trick the watch into thinking she had fallen, but the stuntwoman was able to by taking some hard falls.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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My friend was digging a hole in her garden. Her watch asked her, "are you ok?".

Digging is a very strenuous activity as well as shoveling. Anytime there's a major snow storm, enough people die from shoveling. So it probably detected that she was very stressed.

So it watches your bloodpressure or something?

I figured it was the jerking-around. Maybe it looked to the watch like she had fallen down.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Why does everyone who praises Apple on HN qualify it with the fact that they don’t like Apple for other reasons? Also, Apple is probably the best corporate citizen of any company its relative size in history.

I wondered the same: is it embarrassing here to think Apple does various things well?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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My friend was digging a hole in her garden. Her watch asked her, "are you ok?".

An Apple Watch? How deep was the hole? (Tangent: anyhow, this reminds me of a great aphorism: > If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. This can apply to many situations involving technical debt in software... is it really more effective to do many unseemly hacks rather just fix it properly?)

Ya, apple watch. The hole was a foot or 2.
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