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WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Wow. That's a surprise. I wonder what kind of stick they had to beat him into that?

Softbank probably made it clear to him that if there is any hope to salvage the IPO and have a chance at a lucrative exit, this is the only path forward. That or they found his cereal box and threatened to call the cops.

> That or they found his cereal box and threatened to call the cops.

I'm sorry, I don't understand this part. Is this a reference to something?

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I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this, but I actually just signed up to be a (thankfully month-to-month) WeWork customer for a HotDesk today in Phoenix, and it's actually been a pretty great experience: Great space, nice people, reasonable IT, I was up and running and working within 30 minutes of doing my tour. And yes I've had a cup of the famous We Kombucha. This particular location just opened 3 weeks ago and is ap…

Not necessarily anything (that I know of) wrong with being a WeWork customer, if it suits you. Lots of people who are Uber customers, too, and there's nothing wrong with that even if you think Uber is basically a taxicab company and will never make a profit.

The question was whether or not it made sense to value them at 10x what competitors are. I have read that something like $10billion has been shoveled into them, and they are probably are reasonably-priced $4billion company. That doesn't mean there's no value there, just that someone paid 2.5x that value, and now can't find a buyer for 10x.

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Weird hypothesis, but is what WeWork brings to the table that Regus doesn't is Silicon Valley brand recognition? Not that I'm in the market for office space, but I haven't heard about Regus until this comment.

Honestly as a programmer they have a name and reputation for providing nice offices that I can rely on. I recently agreed to take a job halfway around the world (interviewing via video chat), and when they asked if I had any questions about the office I was able to say "no, it's a WeWork and that's good enough for me". Surely that's got to be valuable to that tenant company.

Is that Karat? We've got a few interviewers working out of WeWork offices.

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WeWork has been an obvious fuckup to even casual observers for years, if people inside the company couldn't see this I really don't know what to say.

The "no meat" policy is what did it for me. The company is such a virtue-signaling joke. https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/13/technology/wework-meat-ban/...

You know I would have thought it's the billion dollars per year of cash burn and the borderline theft of the CEO leasing assets to his own company instead of the meat, but ok.

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Do you work in commercial real estate? My father does, and would pick them and Walgreens as the most effective scaled siting operations in the US. Optimizing for absence of failed stores would be an interesting utility function for them to have, but since they own substantially all of the stores (and therefore don't have franchisee relationships to consider, where volatility for a partner might impact you disproporti…

I've seen a Walgreens that was closed in less than a year because of poor location despite being across the street from a Rite-Aid. They aren't perfect either.

It's not that useful to say they aren't perfect. The better measure would be how they compare to other stores, and/or how their own churn rate has changed over time.

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Hackernews is skeptical of many things though, sometimes hard to filter through the noise.

I find in tech, being skeptical by default is usually a good thing - perhaps not if you're an entrepreneur, but certainly if you're a developer or engineer.

Or an investor. It is interesting how often investors goals accidentally line up with early employees.

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Is this part of the business model of these large, unprofitable VC-backed companies? Build a valuation to meet the 8.1bn threshold, then sell the shares to passive investors in S&P 500 index funds?

No. The S&P 500 is selected by committe. And it's 6.1bn, not 8.1bn. Mabye that's the plan for the Russell 3000, though. But it doesn't really matter except when the stock gets added to the index. The index funds and ETFs are going to rebalance their positions based on market cap and will not affect the price. These funds could affect the volatility though, since it's conceivable that with a lot of the shares locked u…

> But it doesn't really matter except when the stock gets added to the index

It does matter when there are inflows, if there is new money coming into index funds all the stocks in the index benefit (they funds also sell all the stocks in the index when there are outflows). Non-indexed stock are less coupled to flows in and out of trackers.

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The advantage is similar to that of a large gym chain - you can pay more to get a membership that's valid at all the WeWorks in the entire world. This is great for people who regularly travel between many large cities.

I suspect the majority of WeWork's revenue comes from people working in the same location day in, day out. Same with gym chains. People sign up for Planet Fitness because the nearest location is the most convenient, not because they plan to visit multiple locations over the course of a year (not to say there aren't people taking advantage of the multi-city aspect, just that they aren't the typical customer).

Ya, I can't imagine that is really a draw at all. If you travel a lot, you will have an office in your hotel room or can use the business center in the hotel.

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I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this, but I actually just signed up to be a (thankfully month-to-month) WeWork customer for a HotDesk today in Phoenix, and it's actually been a pretty great experience: Great space, nice people, reasonable IT, I was up and running and working within 30 minutes of doing my tour. And yes I've had a cup of the famous We Kombucha. This particular location just opened 3 weeks ago and is ap…

I mean... There's free beer. Your can bring a dog. I can bring my two year old. Fixed desk £450/month in London's Old Street. Its pretty good on the small scale consumer side. Fixed desk in a shared area with plenty of light.

Towards sibling comment... I'd prefer sacred defecatory silence but the toilets are the only place I notice any music.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Softbank probably made it clear to him that if there is any hope to salvage the IPO and have a chance at a lucrative exit, this is the only path forward. That or they found his cereal box and threatened to call the cops.

> That or they found his cereal box and threatened to call the cops. I'm sorry, I don't understand this part. Is this a reference to something?

Google “cereal box wework” and you’ll find a drug-related story in the WSJ.
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