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Re: iPadOS

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Post by _bxg1 »

crooked-v wrote: post #257
0x38B wrote: post #247

I highly recommend reading the MacStories review of iOS and iPadOS 13 [1]. Thirty (!) pages. It's like the manual that Apple forgot. Case in point: you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up. Extensive coverage of multitasking features, as well. There's definitely a learning curve with all these possibilities - s…

> you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists???

Since re-joining the iOS world last year, I've been amazed at how many (often nifty!) features are the exact opposite of intuitive. I was still discovering new features either on accident or via articles, multiple months into ownership of my iPhone. Once I learned about the features many of them were great, but it's very surprising given Apple's focus on intuitiveness.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by bscphil »

keerthiko wrote: post #266
markstos wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite well? Google abandons their phones after three years and repair options are limited compared to Apple. Apple has been supplying software updates for their phones for five years lately. On the plus side for Google phones, they are able to run third-party ROMs when Google quits supporting them.

? Google devices receive Android updates well into 5+ years. I had a Nexus 4 (2013) running Android 8.1 (2017-2018). I also belive Android tends to have fewer breaking OS changes that render modern apps incapable of running on both older and newer OS versions, compared to iOS, so it's significantly worse for usability on iOS with a device that is ~4+ years old.

This got very rare, even for the Nexus devices. The Nexus 5X got only a little over 2 years of feature support, and 3 years of security support, which is the minimum they guarantee.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by dwyerm »

crooked-v wrote: post #257
0x38B wrote: post #247

I highly recommend reading the MacStories review of iOS and iPadOS 13 [1]. Thirty (!) pages. It's like the manual that Apple forgot. Case in point: you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up. Extensive coverage of multitasking features, as well. There's definitely a learning curve with all these possibilities - s…

> you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists???

Or worse, if you accidentally find this feature, will you know what you just did? Or will you suddenly be dumped into somewhere that looks like it is still a web browser but has suddenly stopped responding like one.

It reminds me of all the old Windows users accidentally dragging their start-bar and covering the whole screen.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by bscphil »

benologist wrote: post #67
sanbor wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google advertises that will provide updates for 3 years for Pixel 3a [1]. I think it should be at least 5 years. [1] https://www.androidcentral.com/pixel-3a-does-one-more-thing-...

I think they should be made to provide updates for all Android devices while they continue to sell devices with Android and some timeframe beyond. In both Google's and Apple's case they can easily commit to supporting all devices for as long as they commit to selling devices with these operating systems. Imagine the travesty if Microsoft could turn off Windows updates like this and write off general purpose computers…

I agree 100% for phones sold through the Google Play store. Offer security updates for 100% of their phones indefinitely. Stop the automatic feature updates when the phone becomes slow enough that the new Android version would be a downgrade, but still make it available to users who want to manually upgrade it.

The fact that single individuals in their spare time have been doing ROMs for devices that achieve this for years proves that this isn't the maintenance burden it's sometimes made out to be. The device tree stuff means that even closed source modules aren't that bad to deal with these days.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by Conlectus »

tolmasky wrote: post #184

Apparently as part of the "desktop class" browser experience in iPad OS, Safari lost its ability to double-tap to zoom. This is a feature I use on basically every single webpage, including when I am browsing on an actual desktop computer. Chrome's lack of this feature kept me on desktop Safari for ages. I can't believe they've taken it out. It significantly deteriorates my browsing experiencing. And for what? To add…

As I understand, tap-to-zoom adds a minimum latency to every click on a page since the browser needs to wait to see if its a double tap. This makes some buttons etc. feel laggy.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by markstos »

crooked-v wrote: post #257
0x38B wrote: post #247

I highly recommend reading the MacStories review of iOS and iPadOS 13 [1]. Thirty (!) pages. It's like the manual that Apple forgot. Case in point: you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up. Extensive coverage of multitasking features, as well. There's definitely a learning curve with all these possibilities - s…

> you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists???

As an occasional iPad user, I find the interface somewhat bewildering, even as a power user of other devices.

I want to search to see if an app is installed. I expect an Overview screen that's easily accessible for this like Android, Gnome or Chrome OS, but on iOS I have to swipe left a few times? Weird.

I want to switch wireless network I'm connected to. I correctly guess that I can swipe down to make a wireless icon appear. I expect that from the icon I can get into the settings, but that doesn't appear to be the case. It only seems to toggle the wireless networking on or off.

Sometimes I have good luck telling Siri what to do, but other times the comprehension of what I'm asking falls flat compared to Google's AI.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

crooked-v wrote: post #257
0x38B wrote: post #247

I highly recommend reading the MacStories review of iOS and iPadOS 13 [1]. Thirty (!) pages. It's like the manual that Apple forgot. Case in point: you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up. Extensive coverage of multitasking features, as well. There's definitely a learning curve with all these possibilities - s…

> you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists???

It's funny because this was one of the big issues I kept hearing (and agreed with myself) about Windows 8 - all the things that can happen when you hover in the corners and the hideous "charms" bar.

I really REALLY wish buttons would come back in style.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by celeritascelery »

_bxg1 wrote: post #271
crooked-v wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists???

Since re-joining the iOS world last year, I've been amazed at how many (often nifty!) features are the exact opposite of intuitive. I was still discovering new features either on accident or via articles, multiple months into ownership of my iPhone. Once I learned about the features many of them were great, but it's very surprising given Apple's focus on intuitiveness.

I feel like apple focuses on intuitiveness for a basic non-power user. But they are okay with adding more complexity that power users will know but are hidden from discovery.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

0x38B wrote: post #247

I highly recommend reading the MacStories review of iOS and iPadOS 13 [1]. Thirty (!) pages. It's like the manual that Apple forgot. Case in point: you can swipe from the bottom-right corner of the screen with the Apple Pencil and it'll take a screenshot of the webpage and open it for marking up. Extensive coverage of multitasking features, as well. There's definitely a learning curve with all these possibilities - s…

Are gestures a hard requirement to use the functionality? I already hate their replacing the home button with a gesture that fails 9/10 times to switch apps. Really ruins the ability to use the os for multitasking.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by buildzr »

privateSFacct wrote: post #240
buildzr wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great, so why wouldn't they accept another battery IC with a valid Apple signature? Even swapping a brand new battery is enough to raise complaints.

The ic is not part of battery chemistry- in case this comment isn’t a joke a common workaround would be to grab ic from dead batteries and put them on fakes.

You're right, keeping keys in SRAM and other trivial anti-tamper measures are way too expensive. Cutoffs are performed by the same IC. Should be trivial.

This was a business decision for sure. Apple doesn't want anyone but Apple to work on their devices. Now maybe you can say that alone is good for resale, but it's extremely shitty for customers, especially when their attitude is to tell people they need a new board and all their data is gone when a repair, often even a simple one is entirely possible.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/expert-disputes-apple-on...

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