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WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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I had concerns earlier this year when I interviewed at WeWork—which was the worst interview experience I’ve ever had. I applied for a data science role. The first two hours of the on-site were painful—they seemed to be asking questions tailored to be outside my experience. The third interviewer came into the room and said, “I, uh, just looked at your resume and I have to ask, why do you want to be a backend engineer?…

WeWork is basically a real estate company. Why would they need a data science engineer?

How else would they be able to determine that people like to drink coffee in the morning?

https://twitter.com/modestproposal1/status/10855834347880202...

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> recruiter working very hard to convince me I'd be rich when they IPO recruiters still do that? so unethical.

I had a similar comical situation with Uber a couple months ago. I was arguing that the offer they gave me was a paycut compared to my current position. The recruiter explained to me that I should value the stocks not on the latest valuation but on the 100% certain 250B$ valuation on IPO day. Unfortunately recruiters get a bonus when you sign and are not accountable for anything down the line. They have all the incen…

Are employees even able to sell on IPO day?

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a similar comical situation with Uber a couple months ago. I was arguing that the offer they gave me was a paycut compared to my current position. The recruiter explained to me that I should value the stocks not on the latest valuation but on the 100% certain 250B$ valuation on IPO day. Unfortunately recruiters get a bonus when you sign and are not accountable for anything down the line. They have all the incen…

> I should value the stocks I only accept sign on bonuses, keep your stock, it's worth a lot... right?

I had a similar (ridiculous) conversation with a startup that had already listed on the public stock exchange.

Okay, if the shares are really worth much more than their current market value, and you want to hire me for $X salary and $X/50 market value worth of your stock, it'd make more sense for me to take a different job that just pays $2X salary in cash, and then buy stock on the market...

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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I'm so glad I read hacker news. I almost took a job at WeWork just 2 months ago with a recruiter working very hard to convince me I'd be rich when they IPO. Now I'm at a much smaller startup called Weave which is a really phenomenal place to work. I didn't discover until recently that it's also a YCombinator company. edit: to clarify, hacker news has been extremely skeptical of WeWork for some time, due to this, I wa…

I also dodged this bullet two months ago. They were hiring like crazy in Seattle. Thanks HN!

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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And what about the buildings he leases to We? Or what about his wife?

I'm interested about the buildings. A lot of people bullish on WeWork say -- "Oh, they'll just walk away from the leases. Each lease is owned by a different subsidiary. That subsidiary will just file bankruptcy. Problem solved. They'll just cut the losers, and turn up the dial on the profitable buildings." Adam got a $750M loan from WeWork, right? I'm assuming he used that loan to secure more loans to buy the buildin…

How do the negative rates benefit WeWork?

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a theory that there is no way to become a billionaire without fucking over a lot of people. To become a trillionaire you'd have to fuck over 1000 times as many people. Without getting lynched.

Or you could serve a lot of people, it's probably easier. Sell something for $10 that's worth $12 to the buyer and costs you $8 to make. Repeat a billion times. The people you did business with got an extra $2 billion, you got $2 billion, everybody's better off.

By the time you get to a million times, someone else is going to do the same thing, by selling that item for $9.50.

You need a moat to actually scale that business model. And the ethics of many moats aren't particularly squeaky-clean...

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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> recruiter working very hard to convince me I'd be rich when they IPO recruiters still do that? so unethical.

I had a unicorn's VP-operations try to convince me that my job-offer isn't below market - I should be valuing their stock at 10-100x the valuation used in their most recent round (a few months ago), because this company is sure to become the next big thing.

I had a company in Richmond try to get me to work part time in exchange for stock. They haven't even had an initial round of funding yet. Same situation, told it was to be the next big thing. I'm a gambling man, most projects won't get off the ground, most won't last 3 years, even fewer will reach IPO. We have a lot of crackpots in this industry who think an idea is actually worth something.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

#110

I had concerns earlier this year when I interviewed at WeWork—which was the worst interview experience I’ve ever had. I applied for a data science role. The first two hours of the on-site were painful—they seemed to be asking questions tailored to be outside my experience. The third interviewer came into the room and said, “I, uh, just looked at your resume and I have to ask, why do you want to be a backend engineer?…

I had a similar experience a month or so back with a large consulting firm I was interviewing for in the DC area. It was also a data science role and they kept asking me webdev questions. In this case they knew it was for a data science role but I could also tell the guy hadn't a clue about most machine learning and data science topics. He was probably just as uncomfortable as I was. I didn't take the job.
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