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>our white collar workplaces have become highly mentally taxing and employees need judgement-free resources provided by employers to deal with them Seeing what people in other countries go through, willingly, sacrificing for their families and persevering in relative poverty, I can't help but feel that sentiments like these come off as weak and entitled. If anything it shows that life in the first world is too comfor…
A white collar job can become a mental torture chamber if you are surrounded by bad people. There is an abundance of exploitation, bullying, futility, and lack of fulfillment in current tech culture and very little support structure. Mental welfare is very different from survival.
Suicide Data Reveal New Intervention Spots, Such as Motels and Animal Shelters
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The majority of large employers provide Employee Assistance Programs where employees (and family members) can talk to a judgment-free therapist for at least a few sessions. Those therapists are trained in suicide risk, and will report to the authorities if a patient seems likely to attempt suicide soon.
... at the risk of the action being career-ending (or career progress ending).
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#93> And the information revealed that people in crisis regularly turn their pets over to an animal shelter. I don't know why I assumed they were visiting the animals at the shelter to try to find comfort when I read the headline. The idea of planning to surrender your beloved pet before committing suicide is heartbreaking.
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It is hard to explain everything, but it started when I was a teenager and talked to people at my school about abuse at home. My father hired a team of lawyers after that and they cut a deal with child services which had me shipped off into the Troubled Teen Industry. There I experienced the start of this pattern of abuse and a cult of personality of put downs to me started. It sounds crazy, but I had some authoritie…
Hey there! I am sorry for what you have been through so far. Since I am to go soon, I will keep it short: 1) I heavily suggest going into counceling. The change of behaviour and self concept needed might be too much to manage on your own. 2) It is a unfortunate, but well-researched phenomenon that perpetuators go for a certain type of personality that expresses itself by way of talking an non-verbal communication. Th…
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Our current world mostly doesn't have effective solutions for mental health issues. Given that fact, it's easy to feel like death is the only possible escape. I know a few things that can be helpful, though it's still a hard row to hoe. But saying I know anything useful often just gets me called crazy by internet strangers -- just more evidence that our own personal hells are all too often compounded by other people.…
"Our current world mostly doesn't have effective solutions for mental health issues. " This is not true. "Mental health issues" may be a broad field. I guess US prisons are full of such people, some beyond repair. But I know people who got hospitalized because of health issues and they are doing quite well today. There is help. There are medications and things can normalize. I have a friend who developed mental issue…
They can, but the odds and process aren't the greatest. It's a pretty common experience that people spend years going through different treatment options before they find something that really works. For major depressive disorder, something like 15-20% of patients never find something that works consistently.
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A really good first step can be your doctor, who can lay out options and resources. Think of them as a knowledgeable first responder. It worked for me.
Don't have a doctor. What kind of things were they able to suggest which was helpful?
So the specific things that worked (and didn't work) for me may be different for you. Be open minded and critical, and don't be surprised if you have to try a few things.
That said, the first thing that helped was the validation that came from talking to someone that, in my mind at least, had some broad knowledge of the subject, and knew enough to listen critically, to see whether I was in immediate crisis (I was).
The two things we tried first are often the two "go to's", an anti depressant (citalopram, an SSRI) and cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy
Different categories of anti depressants work through different mechanisms. I got lucky, my ssri began to work almost immediately; usually it takes a couple weeks to see any effect, if any, good or bad.
I didn't fare well with CBT, I think because I'm too cynical, and I could "see the magic trick" that I was trying to play on myself. Which is the wrong way to think of it, but I couldn't help it. So I stopped that. But it has helped lots of people.
I'm not saying these two things are what will help you. But you asked.
The doc also suggested vitamins D, which I still take, and B something, which I stopped because it makes my pee smell really bad.
He also prescribed an anti anxiety drug for the immediate crisis, which I filled but never used.
And we discussed immediate crisis resources like 911.
My remedies are almost not important. The main thing was that I got validation (lots of self doubt when you're depressed), and the relief and hope that comes from taking action.
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I don’t know of any catch all resource. Is this something going on right now, or in your past? If it’s right now, the focus will be on separating yourself from the problem. If it’s the past, then that’s recovery. If you send me an email (my last name at gmail) I could point you to some things that helped me and could apply to your situation.
It is hard to explain everything, but it started when I was a teenager and talked to people at my school about abuse at home. My father hired a team of lawyers after that and they cut a deal with child services which had me shipped off into the Troubled Teen Industry. There I experienced the start of this pattern of abuse and a cult of personality of put downs to me started. It sounds crazy, but I had some authoritie…
CPS has limited resources and a lawyered up parent can beat them. I’ve heard of institutions based on abuse like you described. Someone who went through what you did would likely end up homeless, but then there’s a chance they can beat that and get a good paying job. And then it’s a well known phenomenon that people who have been victimized at some point in their life are more likely to experience it again, later.
I don’t know you past your comments, but nothing I read sounds like paranoid delusions or mental illness.
I’m not a therapist, but I suggest you talk to one. I’m guessing you have health insurance with your good job. They wouldn’t have to give you a severe diagnoses to have it covered. I don’t know you, but maybe a professional would find you to be dealing with Adjustment Disorder or Anxiety. A professional therapist could be the trusted advocate that you need.
My caution is to only go with a licensed therapist, and one that gives you a good gut feeling. Be 100% prepared to walk away if this person starts acting like the abusers in your life. And avoid unlicensed people like “life coaches”. Some of them are great, but I also think they have a higher rate of people who just enjoy having power over other people, and that’s the last thing you need.
I hope this helps.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know of any catch all resource. Is this something going on right now, or in your past? If it’s right now, the focus will be on separating yourself from the problem. If it’s the past, then that’s recovery. If you send me an email (my last name at gmail) I could point you to some things that helped me and could apply to your situation.
It is hard to explain everything, but it started when I was a teenager and talked to people at my school about abuse at home. My father hired a team of lawyers after that and they cut a deal with child services which had me shipped off into the Troubled Teen Industry. There I experienced the start of this pattern of abuse and a cult of personality of put downs to me started. It sounds crazy, but I had some authoritie…
No, it doesn't.
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Hey there! I am sorry for what you have been through so far. Since I am to go soon, I will keep it short: 1) I heavily suggest going into counceling. The change of behaviour and self concept needed might be too much to manage on your own. 2) It is a unfortunate, but well-researched phenomenon that perpetuators go for a certain type of personality that expresses itself by way of talking an non-verbal communication. Th…
I'd be very interested in some research backing up (2). Not because I don't believe you (actually I very much do). More that I'm curious and want to find out more about this phenomena.
Targets who displayed vulnerable body language were more likely to report past histories of victimization, and psychopaths identified these individuals as being more vulnerable to future victimization.
https://www.workplacebullying.org/gait/
What Do Sexual Predators Look For When Grooming Victims?
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/jeffrey-epstein-what-do-se...
Short Circuiting the Victim Selection Process
http://www.protectivestrategies.com/victim-selection.html
Marked for Mayhem
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200901/marked-ma...
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey there! I am sorry for what you have been through so far. Since I am to go soon, I will keep it short: 1) I heavily suggest going into counceling. The change of behaviour and self concept needed might be too much to manage on your own. 2) It is a unfortunate, but well-researched phenomenon that perpetuators go for a certain type of personality that expresses itself by way of talking an non-verbal communication. Th…
I'd be very interested in some research backing up (2). Not because I don't believe you (actually I very much do). More that I'm curious and want to find out more about this phenomena.
General info about Victims, Bullies, Victim-Bullies
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2010/07/bully-victim
More on point: In-depth about who is more likely to become a victim
http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/98783/E9...