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WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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I lean towards this being ignorant hubris. I don't think he set out to scam investors.

I don't think he set out to scam investors. I tripped, fell, and when I put my hand out to catch myself I accidentally had the company give me a loan to buy a building that I leased back to them.

LOL +1

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

#44

Well, corporate governance was one of the main factors why the market refused to accept anything close to their last private valuation, so this makes sense. Note that they desperately need the public money before the end of December in order to avoid running out of cash [0]. My bet is that they will now try to remarket We as a shareholder-controlled company, will maybe even eliminate the multi-class stock structure i…

There was an article yesterday where Softbank was saying that they think they can renegotiate those LOCs to go forward even if there is no IPO this year. They might end up being a lot smaller and have worse terms for We though. I wouldn't be surprised if pushing Adam out was the first demand the banks made in that renegotiation.

Softbank wants to delay the IPO now because it would mean a massive writedown of their investment value.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

#46

Well, corporate governance was one of the main factors why the market refused to accept anything close to their last private valuation, so this makes sense. Note that they desperately need the public money before the end of December in order to avoid running out of cash [0]. My bet is that they will now try to remarket We as a shareholder-controlled company, will maybe even eliminate the multi-class stock structure i…

I just don't see them wrestling control away from the deranged, cult leader. He truly believes he is destined to be president of the world and revolutionize.. well every thing. There best bet would be to drop the multi-class structure to get into passive funds. It needs $8.1b market cap to get into S&P500.

It also needs to be ebita profitable for 8 quarters in a row before its added to the index IIRC

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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I wonder if there is some lingering idea inside their own head that what they're doing is nonsense ... so more nonsense seems pretty logical.

Yeah my curiosity is how one can get so many things right when the same logical processes can spit out completely bonkers ideas at the same time. Is it insane luck that they hit the mark so often?

It's luck, and taking credit for the work of the people they hire.

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

#48

Well, corporate governance was one of the main factors why the market refused to accept anything close to their last private valuation, so this makes sense. Note that they desperately need the public money before the end of December in order to avoid running out of cash [0]. My bet is that they will now try to remarket We as a shareholder-controlled company, will maybe even eliminate the multi-class stock structure i…

I just don't see them wrestling control away from the deranged, cult leader. He truly believes he is destined to be president of the world and revolutionize.. well every thing. There best bet would be to drop the multi-class structure to get into passive funds. It needs $8.1b market cap to get into S&P500.

Is this part of the business model of these large, unprofitable VC-backed companies? Build a valuation to meet the 8.1bn threshold, then sell the shares to passive investors in S&P 500 index funds?
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