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Re: iPadOS

#41

Post by wayneftw »

cfors wrote: post #10

Cool, but nothing about any focus on making the machine realistic for development. My current MacBook Pro is getting a little long in the tooth and after suffering through the 2016 and later versions at work, I will not be buying one of those until the keyboards are fixed. If iPadOS has first class terminal support I would consider making it my full time machine. Looks like the waiting game will continue.

Why do you want a extremely limited computer, one that you hardly have any control over, as your development machine. Do you really want Apple making all of your decisions for you?

I won’t even use macOS due to the limitations that don’t exist anywhere else, but mostly because I think Apple makes bad decisions and then does not give me any options to change the behavior. They are such a “one size fits all” company that I just don’t understand why creative people would want to support them. Their tech is more draconian than anything.

They’re like the China of computing.

Re: iPadOS

#42

Post by [deleted] »

robohoe wrote: post #15
cfors wrote: post #10

Cool, but nothing about any focus on making the machine realistic for development. My current MacBook Pro is getting a little long in the tooth and after suffering through the 2016 and later versions at work, I will not be buying one of those until the keyboards are fixed. If iPadOS has first class terminal support I would consider making it my full time machine. Looks like the waiting game will continue.

Blink shell on the App Store is a fantastic terminal that works wonderfully on iOS/iPadOS. Highly recommend it even with its steep price of $20. It supports mosh out of the box and has ability to store/import private/public keys. Multiple terminals can be opened as well. It even has a limited native shell which you can use to SCP files from your iPad to servers.

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Re: iPadOS

#43

Post by mostlysimilar »

pier25 wrote: post #22
finkin1 wrote: post #5

I wonder why they aren't advertising mouse support. This seems like one of the most useful features to me. They didn't mention it on the keynote and I can't find it on their website anywhere. Any thoughts on why Apple wouldn't be pushing this as a major advancement for iPad?

I think one reason is that it looks half baked. Instead of a cursor you get a blob which simulates a finger. Another reason might be because Apple has been avoiding mixing touch screens with mice. Not sure why. Maybe because Microsoft did it first or maybe because Apple doesn't want to canibalize sales between products. Anyway, a macOS touch laptop would be amazing or an iPad pro runnning an iOS/macOS combo. Sidecar…

I've never been convinced about a touchscreen macOS. The quality of the interface in Windows took a nosedive when they started trying to account for both finger-poking and precision cursor use. I would hate to see that happen to macOS. My preference is to let macOS/MacBooks stay keyboard/mouse, and let iPadOS/iPad be the touch device.

Re: iPadOS

#44

Post by ckastner »

ogre_codes wrote: post #31

When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead. When you compare it to MacOS and Windows 10 which run on 8-10 year old hardware, not as much. Of course how good Windows support is for that older hardware depends largely on OEMs and driver support and varies greatly. Linux can run on 20 year old hardware... or older?

> When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead

Google keeps their own hardware updated quite well, I liked the monthly security updates.

With regards to the rest of the tablet market, basically only Samsung and Lenovo are left, and Samsung lost me as a customer a long time ago.

I've been looking at the iPad Air 3 recently and while it looks nice, I just fell in love with the Apple pencil. The fact that they update even their ancient hardware is just a huge plus -- that's commitment to the customer.

Re: iPadOS

#45

Post by cujo »

wayneftw wrote: post #41
cfors wrote: post #10

Cool, but nothing about any focus on making the machine realistic for development. My current MacBook Pro is getting a little long in the tooth and after suffering through the 2016 and later versions at work, I will not be buying one of those until the keyboards are fixed. If iPadOS has first class terminal support I would consider making it my full time machine. Looks like the waiting game will continue.

Why do you want a extremely limited computer, one that you hardly have any control over, as your development machine. Do you really want Apple making all of your decisions for you? I won’t even use macOS due to the limitations that don’t exist anywhere else, but mostly because I think Apple makes bad decisions and then does not give me any options to change the behavior. They are such a “one size fits all” company th…

I'll bite. What were the limitations?

Re: iPadOS

#46

Post by peatmoss »

Anyone here familiar with photo management know what the likely implications of the new USB storage support are?

My elderly mother has gotten into photography in the past few years and shoots with what I assume is a prosumer camera (high-ish resolution, swappable lenses). The Windows laptop she plugs into is a disaster waiting to happen, in that I’m pretty sure nothing is properly backed up. I think she also barely understands what’s happening on her computer at any given time.

If an iPad, plus camera kit, plus external storage, plus maybe some iCloud backup is a reasonable way to manage photos, I'd consider getting her one.

What might an iPadOS + camera workflow / setup look like? Is this likely to be a replacement for a camera + traditional computer photo management setup?

Edit: I should add that, while I’m comfortable with Linux and coding and other nerdly pursuits, I know nothing about current norms and tech for photography.

Re: iPadOS

#47

Post by nvrspyx »

redler wrote: post #38
iaml wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very annoying. I haven't found a way to close the app in slideover apart from opening sidedrawer and closing all the apps there.

Perhaps dragging the overlaid app, by its header, straight off the edge of the screen (i.e., horizontally)?

I’m pretty sure that just hides the app as you can then swipe it back into view from the edge. The parent commenter seems to want to end the process.

Re: iPadOS

#48

Post by Analemma_ »

ogre_codes wrote: post #31

When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead. When you compare it to MacOS and Windows 10 which run on 8-10 year old hardware, not as much. Of course how good Windows support is for that older hardware depends largely on OEMs and driver support and varies greatly. Linux can run on 20 year old hardware... or older?

In Apple's defense, the SOCs on iPads are improving much, much faster than PC chips. Intel chips have been getting faster at something like 5% per year for the last decade, compared to 50% for Apple's A-series. So I think supporting 5 years worth of iPad devices is somewhat comparable to supporting 20 years worth of PC hardware: in both cases it's about a 100x performance difference between the bottom and top, and beyond that I imagine it's not worth it to try and tune an OS for both.

Re: iPadOS

#49

Post by [deleted] »

cfors wrote: post #10

Cool, but nothing about any focus on making the machine realistic for development. My current MacBook Pro is getting a little long in the tooth and after suffering through the 2016 and later versions at work, I will not be buying one of those until the keyboards are fixed. If iPadOS has first class terminal support I would consider making it my full time machine. Looks like the waiting game will continue.

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Re: iPadOS

#50

Post by supermatt »

ben7799 wrote: post #3

Wow.. you can finally plug in a USB drive/card reader/camera/whatever... That alone actually takes the iPad a long way towards actually being real/Pro/whatever. I sold my first Gen iPad Pro over this stuff. It was just to painful to do a lot of real world stuff that involved files. Maybe today the experience would be a heck of a lot better.

You've been able to do a lot of that for a while with the official camera adapter.
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