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Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by wasdfff »

paulcole wrote: post #92
donkeyd wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's unfortunate that internet people have been falsely conditioned to believe the people who create the media we consume shouldn't be paid. I don't think this is true at all. Nobody thinks musicians shouldn't be paid, but until Spotify everyone was downloading music. > Oh, but you will gladly pay for quality, ad-free content, you say? I would definitely pay. I just don't want to pay for every single article I read…

> Nobody thinks musicians shouldn't be paid, but until Spotify everyone was downloading music. This is even worse IMO. People think musicians deserve to be paid but still manage to rationalize taking from them without paying instead.

Nothing wrong with buying merch and concert tickets while pirating the discography. Fuck the record label.

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

hrktb wrote: post #114
pembrook wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I try to avoid advertising as much as possible, and it's sad that they are one more place it's invading. It's unfortunate that internet people have been falsely conditioned to believe the people who create the media we consume shouldn't be paid. Oh, but you will gladly pay for quality, ad-free content, you say? Unfortunately, based on the numbers I've seen at media companies I've freelanced for, this only works out…

Wouldn't Patreon's success be a counterpoint ? The vast majority of people don't pay, but there seem to be enough people paying that it at least balances the ad dependency of a number of creators. I might be biased, but most of the content I really didn't want to go away or bend backward to get sponsors seem to have successful followings (99pi, the whole radiotopia rooster, Hello Internet, CGP Grey, a few minor ones…

None if the podcasts I listen to have ads. I listen to about 15 distinct podcasts. There’s clearly a market.

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by nabla9 »

yostrovs wrote: post #83
nabla9 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be argued that large majority of Americans have liberal values. Many of them have non-liberal identity that makes them think they are non-liberal. For example: 61 percent of Americans, 42 percent of Republicans, approve of labor unions 66 percent of Americans think money and wealth should be distributed more evenly. 80 percent of Americans think some corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes. 78 percent…

Amazingly, when voting time comes, the country tends to appear center right. Could there polls be wrong?

In the US voting is first past the post, so the election result can differ radically from popular opinion.

Senate representation is also skewed.

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by paulcole »

wasdfff wrote: post #121
paulcole wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody thinks musicians shouldn't be paid, but until Spotify everyone was downloading music. This is even worse IMO. People think musicians deserve to be paid but still manage to rationalize taking from them without paying instead.

Nothing wrong with buying merch and concert tickets while pirating the discography. Fuck the record label.

Yeah there is. Taking something you shouldn't is by almost any definition wrong. Except when it comes to music and movies apparently.

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by bogomipz »

pembrook wrote: post #28
e1ven wrote: post #4

I love NPR. I'm glad they're doing well, and hope they will continue to make quality programs. But one of the major advantages which has set them apart for me is that they aren't as advertising dependent as so many of their alternatives. Avoiding ads makes it easier for them to be independent, and able to report without fear of corporations withdrawing their support. It's also just much more pleasant to listen to. I…

> I try to avoid advertising as much as possible, and it's sad that they are one more place it's invading. It's unfortunate that internet people have been falsely conditioned to believe the people who create the media we consume shouldn't be paid. Oh, but you will gladly pay for quality, ad-free content, you say? Unfortunately, based on the numbers I've seen at media companies I've freelanced for, this only works out…

>"It's unfortunate that internet people have been falsely conditioned to believe the people who create the media we consume shouldn't be paid."

Nowhere did I see in the OPs post that they believe people who create content shouldn't be paid. NPR is a publicly funded non profit which also gets revenues from corporate sponsors, endowments and foundations[1] and this model has served them and their listeners well.

The OPs concerns as I understand it is one that is grounded in the excitement surrounding this new windfall of ad revenue from podcasts and it's possible effects on an organization that proudly proclaims their independence.

Lastly aside from a couple of programs(All Things Considered and Morning Edition) NPR is not a content creator. They purchase content from PRI, WNYC Studios, and American Public Media. They are more of distributor and reseller of content.

[1] https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finance...

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

donkeyd wrote: post #77
pembrook wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I try to avoid advertising as much as possible, and it's sad that they are one more place it's invading. It's unfortunate that internet people have been falsely conditioned to believe the people who create the media we consume shouldn't be paid. Oh, but you will gladly pay for quality, ad-free content, you say? Unfortunately, based on the numbers I've seen at media companies I've freelanced for, this only works out…

> It's unfortunate that internet people have been falsely conditioned to believe the people who create the media we consume shouldn't be paid. I don't think this is true at all. Nobody thinks musicians shouldn't be paid, but until Spotify everyone was downloading music. > Oh, but you will gladly pay for quality, ad-free content, you say? I would definitely pay. I just don't want to pay for every single article I read…

> I don't think this is true at all. Nobody thinks musicians shouldn't be paid, but until Spotify everyone was downloading music.

Spotify is hardly an example of successful funding for artists, though. They’re just as exploitative if not more so than the industry was before.

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by war1025 »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #110
war1025 wrote: post #40

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They always say "We don't have ads, we have underwriters". I think the difference being the sponsor has copy that the announcer will read, but they can't do all the annoying audio effects that traditional advertisers use. Personally, I don't much mind it. Gotta pay the bills somehow. Maybe depends where you are, but NPR is big here in central Iowa (iowapublicradio.org). I think it's pretty big in Minnesota as well.

Isn't having the talent do the add read, worse than playing in professional adverts. or I am spoiled by the BBC.

I think the difference is they limit it to sort "Mission Statement" type blurbs, instead of "COME TO JimBob's CHevy for GREAT DEALSS!!!!"

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

paulcole wrote: post #124
wasdfff wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing wrong with buying merch and concert tickets while pirating the discography. Fuck the record label.

Yeah there is. Taking something you shouldn't is by almost any definition wrong. Except when it comes to music and movies apparently.

Grandpa’s property rights have no weight in the digital era. If you’re going to make something free to copy the last thing you should do is get mad when people copy it. What’s the point? Just charge people to watch.

Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by [deleted] »

vorpalhex wrote: post #108
SomeOldThrow wrote: post #74

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And people wonder why twitter is popular for politics.

I assumed twitter is popular for politics because it's a self perpetuating loop of outrage. If only we could harvest such outrage into electricity...

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Re: Podcast sponsorship revenue continues to fuel NPR’s financial growth

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

yostrovs wrote: post #83
nabla9 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be argued that large majority of Americans have liberal values. Many of them have non-liberal identity that makes them think they are non-liberal. For example: 61 percent of Americans, 42 percent of Republicans, approve of labor unions 66 percent of Americans think money and wealth should be distributed more evenly. 80 percent of Americans think some corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes. 78 percent…

Amazingly, when voting time comes, the country tends to appear center right. Could there polls be wrong?

This is the result of the electoral college, gerrymandering, successfully convincing people not to vote, and fear mongering the death of white culture.
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