Nim 1.0

Congrats guys!!! This has been much-anticipated and I'm very excited. I personally wish that the owned reference stuff (https://nim-lang.org/araq/ownedrefs.html) had been part of 1.0, but I think that at some point shipping 1.0 >> everything else.

I've been following (and evangelizing) Nim for a while, this will make it easier to do so.

Re: Nim 1.0

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Post by treeform » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:40 PM UTC

perturbation wrote: post #4

Congrats guys!!! This has been much-anticipated and I'm very excited. I personally wish that the owned reference stuff ( https://nim-lang.org/araq/ownedrefs.html ) had been part of 1.0, but I think that at some point shipping 1.0 >> everything else. I've been following (and evangelizing) Nim for a while, this will make it easier to do so.

I don't think the owned reference part will change the language drastically. For people that want to write kernels, games or real time code it would be great. Nim's GC is super configurable already. Yeah owned reference would be better but its already pretty good.

Re: Nim 1.0

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Post by excursionist » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:41 PM UTC

> Type identifiers should be in PascalCase [1]

I don't get why some languages adopt the 'PascalCase for types' approach (which is fine), but then a bunch of the built-in types such as 'string', 'set', 'int64', etc. are lowercase... it's annoyingly inconsistent.

[1] https://nim-lang.org/docs/nep1.html#introduction-naming-conv...

Re: Nim 1.0

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Post by dmix » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:43 PM UTC

pietroppeter wrote: post #2

see also: https://nim-lang.org/araq/v1.html

It's interesting to hear the constraints the language developer wanted from the beginning (20k lines, macro system drives most of the language development) and the various compromises they had to make along the way.

> Furthermore, we don't really know yet how to leverage a macro system in order to give us extensibility on the type system level, so Nim's core needed generics and constraints for generics.

I'm curious to dig into Nim and it's type system. I'm not familiar with Pascal style typing, I wonder how it compares with Rusts type system?

Re: Nim 1.0

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Post by nathcd » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:48 PM UTC

Congratulations Nim team! :D

I've had Nim installed on my laptop for a long time and I've always enjoyed tinkering around with it over the years. Maybe now it's time to find a bigger project to try it out on.

This is a tiny thing, but just to highlight something unique I like about Nim, using `func` to declare pure functions (and `proc` for others) has been a small, but really nice quality of life improvement. It's something I've been wanting in other languages since Nim added it.

It seems like the 2010s have been a pretty amazing time for new programming languages. The ones that I can think of that I've at least tried are Rust, Go, Nim, Crystal, Zig, Pony, Fennel, Janet, and Carp (I know, some of these are pre-2010, but I think they've all either 1.0'd or had a first public release post-2010), and every single one has made me really excited about some aspect of it. I hope this experimentation continues into the 2020s!

Re: Nim 1.0

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Post by ksec » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:53 PM UTC

nathcd wrote: post #8

Congratulations Nim team! :D I've had Nim installed on my laptop for a long time and I've always enjoyed tinkering around with it over the years. Maybe now it's time to find a bigger project to try it out on. This is a tiny thing, but just to highlight something unique I like about Nim, using `func` to declare pure functions (and `proc` for others) has been a small, but really nice quality of life improvement. It's s…

And it turns out Crystal 0.31 [1] is released! And it is ( or should be ) closing to 1.0 release as well, once Windows Support and MultiThreading matures. May be 2020?

On the list of languages I only know the first few up to Zig, will need to check out the others. There is also one noticeable missing and that is Elixir.

[1] https://crystal-lang.org/2019/09/23/crystal-0.31.0-released....

Re: Nim 1.0

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Post by nathcd » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:54 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #9

nathcd wrote: post #8

Congratulations Nim team! :D I've had Nim installed on my laptop for a long time and I've always enjoyed tinkering around with it over the years. Maybe now it's time to find a bigger project to try it out on. This is a tiny thing, but just to highlight something unique I like about Nim, using `func` to declare pure functions (and `proc` for others) has been a small, but really nice quality of life improvement. It's s…

And it turns out Crystal 0.31 [1] is released! And it is ( or should be ) closing to 1.0 release as well, once Windows Support and MultiThreading matures. May be 2020? On the list of languages I only know the first few up to Zig, will need to check out the others. There is also one noticeable missing and that is Elixir. [1] https://crystal-lang.org/2019/09/23/crystal-0.31.0-released....

Good call! Also Julia, Typescript, and ReasonML now that I'm thinking about it.