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Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by newnewpdro »

0x38B wrote: post #57
newnewpdro wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears he's already dead. https://www.ibtimes.com/who-carmen-tarleton-lye-attack-victi...

Quoting the linked article: “I have fully forgiven him and I don’t have the same attitude that a lot of people have with his treatment of me,” Tarleton said. “I have moved on so well and in so many ways. I feel like, for me, it ends a big chapter in my life.” More than what happened to her, what stands out to me is that she's moved on. That's strength. There are things that no one can take away.

I wouldn't be so eager to highlight these statements.

Self-blame is very common in victims of domestic abuse, and when one suffers from it they're predisposed towards "forgiveness". It's really a compensation for feeling somehow responsible for their own abuse, which is very unfortunate.

I'm glad she seems to have found some closure in his death though.

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by babyslothzoo »

anon9001 wrote: post #18

> “We all know we are in uncharted waters,” Tarleton said. “I would rather not have to go through a catastrophic failure.” If anyone hasn't been through some tragic medical shit in their life, pay attention to that. You'll understand it later.

Health and time are the two biggest things people take for granted, particularly when they're young

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by Apofis »

Medicalidiot wrote: post #7

This is to be expected. Any time we do any transplant immunosupressants are given to the recipient for the rest of their life, but this only slows the inevitable. Heart transplants recipients all get accelerated atherosclerosis. Lung transplant recipients all get long term fibrosis. We buy time with these procedures and do everything we can to keep them going, but if you have a transplant, you're in a really bad spot…

Absolutely terrible that's happening, though. Hopefully with further genetic research and being able to grow new organs, these issues will go away.

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by kipchak »

plutonorm wrote: post #27
tempguy9999 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a pic and it's not so pretty. What's much worse to me is the description of what her husband did to her. Consider skipping this one altogether.

I'm a live and let live, everyone has their own pain and their own story, we all are just doing our best sort of guy... But I want to string that guy up.

At some point I think practically speaking people are broken beyond repair, at least compared to the amount of good you could do for other people with the same amount of resources.

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by robohoe »

eecc wrote: post #59

The f*cking prick needs to be sat in front of a picture of his victim and stare at it 14 hrs a day. Then be given 2 hrs to wash and feel what he has brutally taken away from his victim. Then sleep 8 hrs in order to be fully aware for the next sitting the next day. For about... the rest of his useless life.

He’s supposedly dead [0].

https://www.vnews.com/Man-Convicted-of-Maiming-Vermont-Woman...

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by markkat »

puranjay wrote: post #48
markkat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This issue is why I started Forever Labs (YCS17). We bank your stem cells. Immunity presents many difficult problems to be solved. I’d rather worry about the therapeutic developments alone rather than add immunity on top of it.

I'm a little curious how something like this works within the economic framework of a startup. How do you reconcile the inherently long-term nature of your business (I might need my stem cells in a decade or two) with the inherent instability of a startup (you might go out of business within 3 years)?

The annual storage fees ($250/yr) cover our banking costs. The banking needs little more than invoicing to remain viable, and with the numbers we have banked, it could survive as a stand-alone entity, or would be an asset that could be acquired by another banking service. My cells are in there, as are those of many of my family members. I want them available 20 years from now. Of course, we aspire to mature beyond a startup, and are getting there. :)

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by monktastic1 »

plutonorm wrote: post #27
tempguy9999 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a pic and it's not so pretty. What's much worse to me is the description of what her husband did to her. Consider skipping this one altogether.

I'm a live and let live, everyone has their own pain and their own story, we all are just doing our best sort of guy... But I want to string that guy up.

> I'm a live and let live, everyone has their own pain and their own story, we all are just doing our best sort of guy... But I want to string that guy up.

I don't think empathy and punishment are at odds with each other. It's perfectly possible (and, I think, healthy) to have deep compassion for both victims and perpetrators, while still taking the right corrective measures.

Depending on what exactly "stringing up" entails, I might be right there with you.

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by tibbydudeza »

pkaye wrote: post #38
uwuhn wrote: post #28

I'm curious to know how much face transplants cost in the US, and if insurance covers any of it.

I know some of the face transplants were funded by the department of defense.

As potential treatment regime for wounded soldiers who usually are prone to such horrific injuries.

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by randyrand »

kls wrote: post #52
tempguy9999 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a pic and it's not so pretty. What's much worse to me is the description of what her husband did to her. Consider skipping this one altogether.

Yeah not good, how can men bring themselves to such violence against women. I am sitting here as I write this looking at my wife and cant for the life of me fathom doing such a ghastly act to her or even a woman that I don't know, no matter what I believed (real or imaginary) their transgressions where against me. I don't know the back story but if he was capable of doing this, she probably left him for good reason a…

> I am sitting here as I write this looking at my wife and cant for the life of me fathom doing such a ghastly act to her or even a woman that I don't know.

Not trying to 1-up you but I can't imagine how anyone could do this to anyone.

Edit: to those curious what happened to the husband. 30 to 70-year sentence (age 52 at the time), died in prison. https://www.vnews.com/Man-Convicted-of-Maiming-Vermont-Woman...

Re: Face transplant recipient’s donor face now failing

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Post by DoreenMichele »

peterlk wrote: post #12
Medicalidiot wrote: post #7

This is to be expected. Any time we do any transplant immunosupressants are given to the recipient for the rest of their life, but this only slows the inevitable. Heart transplants recipients all get accelerated atherosclerosis. Lung transplant recipients all get long term fibrosis. We buy time with these procedures and do everything we can to keep them going, but if you have a transplant, you're in a really bad spot…

I just finished up an introductory biology lecture series, and this suddenly makes less sense to me than it did before. What is it about the foreign cells that is identified as foreign by the host cells? The cells ought to be remarkably similar. They're human, with the same function/pluripotency using the same protein interactions. So why attack it?

So why attack it?

There is more in your body than just your cells. We are in the infancy of understanding stuff like this, but my WAG is that donor tissue can be rejected because it contains hostile microorganisms that didn't make the radar of the medical staff for whatever reason.

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