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Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by sdegutis »

searine wrote: post #29
sdegutis wrote: post #20

Although there is value in trying to removing pain when doing so would be ethical, this thread mentions many situations where there is pain but no possibility yet of removing or reducing it. In these cases, a long-term general solution is to continue research on these situations. But the short-term solution per person is to learn the meaning and value of suffering. It is frowned upon in intellectual forums to discuss…

Jesus died on the cross in six hours. Let's see jesus crush a few vertebrae and live disabled for 40 years without pain meds, and then talk about suffering. Like I get it. Religion does help many, and it can take you away from pain, but suffering is real and don't shortchange people's misery who are dealing with it.

I'm deeply sorry for your suffering. 40 years is a very long time, and it's not a coincidence that throughout history 40 has been the number representing trial and suffering. Jesus does know what you have gone through. He's not "some religion" but a person. He can help you. He's the only one who can help you.

Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by [deleted] »

NullPrefix wrote: post #25
avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

>If I did not do my own research, I would literally still be living with this pain If you want to hire someone to do a job, you need to know how to do the job yourself. If you don't know, then you're prime target for stunt performances or casual incompetence.

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Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by mehrdadn »

avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

> there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis.

But correct diagnosis does not imply there is a cure or treatment available for the condition?

Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by nordsieck »

NullPrefix wrote: post #25
avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

>If I did not do my own research, I would literally still be living with this pain If you want to hire someone to do a job, you need to know how to do the job yourself. If you don't know, then you're prime target for stunt performances or casual incompetence.

> If you want to hire someone to do a job, you need to know how to do the job yourself.

This is simply not possible with the degree of specialization in the modern economy. There's no way you can be an electrician-plumber-mechanic-doctor-lawyer-IT specialist.

This is precisely why people care about reputations and gossip.

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Post by babyslothzoo »

avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

Did you have a specific event that caused your injury, that led you to do your own research in that direction?

And are you hypothesizing that your injury may be related to prior fluoroquinolone use?

Proper diagnosis is hard, and most doctors are generalists rather than specialists. A common medical aphorism is "When you hear hooves, think of horses not zebras".

Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by cwkoss »

avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

Flouroquinolones are pretty terrifying. I had a bad reaction that basically gave me a constant low-grade panic attack. Felt like the sensation of betrayal or impending doom in my chest. Luckily I only had minor tendon issues as I discontinued after a week.

If your doctor prescribes "Cipro" or other FQ's as a first line, ask them if there are any other options.

Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by imustbeevil »

mehrdadn wrote: post #33
avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

> there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. But correct diagnosis does not imply there is a cure or treatment available for the condition?

Chronic pain isn't a condition, it's a symptom. That's why proper diagnosis is the solution, because the million different "chronic pains" you can have will be treated a million different ways, and you either need to know which one or try them all and risk the side effects, as they did in the GP's comment.

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Post by Wistar »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #16
juancn wrote: post #2

Should there be one? Pain is a symptom of something else, treat the root cause. Managing pain should only be a temporary measure.

When it's a symptom of some part of your body being worn out there's usually no treating that.

No wonder I get headaches these days.

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Post by rjurney »

avgDev wrote: post #8

Oof. To answer the headline, there already is a cure to chronic pain and it is called correct diagnosis. When i was 21 I had chronic pain for 8 months, doctors gave me anti-biotics, NSAIDS, steroids.....but pain was just there. After months of research I found a surgeon in California, who performed surgeries on "Sports Hernia", almost like inguinal hernia without any bumps. I flew out to have the surgery, pictures ta…

There is usually no cure for chronic pain. This is medical fact. Your case is not descriptive. It is usually not caused by scar tissue, or an infection. For example MRI reports are only slightly correlated with actual spinal pain. It generally involves an up modulation of pain sensation in the peripheral and central nervous system. It is worthwhile to investigate the cause but most people don't find a cure like you did. There is no cure for most chronic pain patients.

This is an extremely harmful answer. Do not listen to this person. If you have chronic pain, see a pain management specialist - a physiatrist or an interventional anaesthesiologist, or both. There are many non-opioid options that work extremely well. They can coordinate other care.

For example here's a Quora answer listing just a few treatments for chronic arthritis pain: https://www.quora.com/What-do-I-do-as-a-chronic-pain-elderly...

Re: Will there ever be a cure for chronic pain?

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Post by Wistar »

Perhaps naive but from NPR this morning:

"For people who live with chronic pain, getting up, out and moving can seem daunting. Some fear that physical activity will make their pain worse. But in fact, researchers find the opposite is true: The right kind of exercise can help reduce pain."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/09/23/7548691...

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