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Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by CriticalCathed »

mikeg8 wrote: post #166
aurbano wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely, I have done no research on this but on his website [1] he claims: > Strength: The fundamental principles of a yurt’s design creates a structure that is surprisingly strong. The compression and tension of the walls and roof can hold thousands of pounds of weight from the snow. The round shape allows high winds to be diverted gracefully around the structure. Unlike a normal house, a yurt doesn’t rely on rig…

I think from a structural engineering perspective, yurts are strong for their weight/materials but most construction failures don’t involve a structure falling, it’s matrierials/joint failure from water/UV exposure and penetrations. Yurts were developed to be semi-permanent structures for nomadic peoples. I would not expect them to last more than 15-20 years because of the toll the water and sun will take on their “c…

Cheaper to replace a yurt than a roof on a traditional home, which you are supposed to do in a range of time similar to your predicted lifespan of a yurt. And that includes the entire yurt, when in reality you'd probably only have to replace the plastic and frabric which is considerably less expensive than the entire yurt.

I'm not sure if I'm under-thinking this or if you guys are.

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by whimwell »

jokoon wrote: post #89

I'm more curious about the state of that yurt in 5, 10, 15 years. Heating, humidity, insulation, energy bill, insects, hygiene, maintaining the toilet and the hygiene issues that come with it. Building codes don't exist without good reasons. Health and comfort don't happen by snapping finger at good ideas. I would really be interesting if construction engineers seriously studied yurts. I have to say this looks pretty…

I would certainly like to add some more detail that goes into a lot of what you mentioned. Just havent had the time yet. I agree with most of what you say. But I think there’s a spectrum of acceptable living conditions that maybe extends past what most current building codes allow. Some people are okay roughing it more than others. Of course, if that were to be accepted it could also be taken advantage of by unscrupulous landlords, developers, etc.

There are counties in the US that do permit yurts even for full-time use. These gurts are signed off by a structural engineer and are typically in more temperate climates. Yurts can last quite a long time. Most of the exterior material has a 15 year warranty. Beyond that, it will depend on the climate and how well the structure is maintained. There are yurts that were constructed by the OG yurt companies back in the late 70s that are still in use today. And the materials and engineering has only gotten better over the decades. Yurts are not perfect for every environment, but they are an interesting option in specific use cases.

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by whimwell »

mikeg8 wrote: post #166
aurbano wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely, I have done no research on this but on his website [1] he claims: > Strength: The fundamental principles of a yurt’s design creates a structure that is surprisingly strong. The compression and tension of the walls and roof can hold thousands of pounds of weight from the snow. The round shape allows high winds to be diverted gracefully around the structure. Unlike a normal house, a yurt doesn’t rely on rig…

I think from a structural engineering perspective, yurts are strong for their weight/materials but most construction failures don’t involve a structure falling, it’s matrierials/joint failure from water/UV exposure and penetrations. Yurts were developed to be semi-permanent structures for nomadic peoples. I would not expect them to last more than 15-20 years because of the toll the water and sun will take on their “c…

You’re not wrong per se, but the polyvinyl fabric roof or wall on a yurt can be replaced in a matter of hours for a relatively reasonable price. If you have to do that every 15 years, I think you’re doing pretty well.

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by dehrmann »

cwkoss wrote: post #33

Wow, imgur has really ramped up the ads and user hostile UX, I wonder if they are going broke.

Reddit adding image hosting couldn't have helped them with anything other than bandwidth costs.

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by ravitation »

mikeg8 wrote: post #168
ravitation wrote: post #152

I love DIY homes but, in the negatives it lists... > Poor temperature control, noise level, and not so temporary I'm wondering why you would build a yurt instead of one of the numerous more traditional wood frame green pre-fabs, which would essentially eliminate all of these negatives?

My guess is cost would be the biggest factor. Materials and construction methods in a tiny/pre-fab home are on a different level.

This yurt cost $65k though. That's easily on the same level as small pre-fabs.

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

khabaal wrote: post #76
ryacko wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This lacks statistics on temperatures throughout the day or estimates on the loadbearing capacity of the roof. In essence, this house has not been benchmarked.

This is exactly, what came to my mind after adoring the beautiful first and following pictures. The whole setup looks very adorable, with the plants inside the bedroom area and i guess it could be very plesant to stay there for holiday. But i guess the winters will be horribly cold without anything that could be called decent insulation. And the whole weight of the roof (and maybe snow) is on that little wooden fence…

Traditional yurts were built in areas with high winds and snowy winters, how is this different?

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by whimwell »

olefoo wrote: post #63

Curious as to why Pacific Yurts didn't make the yurt companies page. https://doityurtself.com/choosing-a-yurt-company/ if you've ever stayed in an Oregon State Parks Yurt they were built by https://www.yurts.com/

Pacific Yurts is the only company that declined to complete the company questionnaire that I created. Maybe if enough people email them, they'll change their mind :)

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

bhtru wrote: post #54
cwkoss wrote: post #33

Wow, imgur has really ramped up the ads and user hostile UX, I wonder if they are going broke.

Imgur for a while has been hostile to non users for a while but never enough for me to outright dismiss a link simply because it's Imgur. They ride the line between functional and hostile tightly.

They've crossed the line for me by redirecting direct image links to the post.

Eg: When I click an i.imgur.com/xxxxxxxx.png link I expect to be taken to the image file, not be redirected to the horrid, slow and bloated mobile UI.

Re: Do It Yurtself

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Post by hermitdev »

dmitripopov wrote: post #120
karlp wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the problem is this is not DIY, it's professional work, the word is being abused for some purpose. > He has a do it yurtself website w/ all the fancy content, presumably he's planning on selling that. Not surprised

Well, it's do it YOURTself, not yourself, sometimes humor is hard to detect ;)

Sorry, as an older individual, not necessarily up to date on current memes and such, what's the significance of the extra "T" in "yourtself"?
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