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The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

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Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to British umbrellas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tukQDg22o9M

That video screen on the inside of the umbrella could be made with some portable beamer projecting it, would be cool to have in a storm so you could see oncoming traffic haha

You know, there are transparent umbrellas out there...

Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

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post #17

All those people who protest ... They protest against what ? In France, we have the "Gilets Jaunes", who also protest, there is also the young people who protest against climate change. They protest, and they go nowhere ...

Honestly, right now, the "unfairness of life" is the closest to a coherent message I can interpret from their "movement". It was really a tense and passionate debate 2 months ago, but now many of us just roll our eyes at the latest news, like when they shave people who clean the streets, burn an MTR station, cry in a foreign country they need to be "freed", and the like...

Seems a little bit unfair not to mention the five demands in this context: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/13/what-do-the-ho...

If you really want to "interpret" the message of their movement, that would seem like a good place to start.

Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

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Remember 2014, Kyiv, Maidan. We actively used a push-to-talk mobile app Zello. Cheap used mobile phone, burner sim-card without id, and you're on the way. Also many people used whatsapp, Facebook was very liberal to UA protesters. "Winter on fire", Netflix, highly recommend. Of course times changing, and heard now Zello is affiliated with Russian government.

Yeah, but there are new options. I've seen Telegram and Briar both listed as options that the Hong Kong protesters have used. When a company sells out to the state, it's time to switch to another one. Briar, in particular, was made specifically for dissidents and protesters.

Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

#25

> Chinese e-commerce sites like Taobao and AliExpress no longer sell them to customers in Hong Kong Impressive coordination of public & private bureaucracies

A cursory glance indicates I am perfectly able to buy an umbrella from Ali express in Hong Kong - didn't go all the way through the purchase however. I do somewhat question the reliability of the source in this instance.

>didn't go all the way through the purchase however

So you didn't actually buy it? lol. reread what you wrote

Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

#26

All those people who protest ... They protest against what ? In France, we have the "Gilets Jaunes", who also protest, there is also the young people who protest against climate change. They protest, and they go nowhere ...

You can literally google "hong kong protest demands"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/13/asia/hong-kong-airport-protes...

>As the protest movement is leaderless, not everyone has the same goals in mind. But in general, five main demands have emerged: withdraw the bill, for leader Carrie Lam to step down, an inquiry into police brutality, for those who have been arrested to be released, and greater democratic freedoms.

Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

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post #9

> “If you compare the umbrella with the weapon the others are using to attack us, the umbrella is nothing for that. Actually, umbrellas are really easily broken and we only use it to protect ourselves.” Are umbrellas in China just really light and flimsy? I've had a lot of umbrellas heavy and sturdy enough to do some serious damage if I were so inclined.

Compared to British umbrellas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tukQDg22o9M

Nice. The physics are a little off though.

Re: The Essential Tool for Hong Kong Protesters? An Umbrella

#30

Remember 2014, Kyiv, Maidan. We actively used a push-to-talk mobile app Zello. Cheap used mobile phone, burner sim-card without id, and you're on the way. Also many people used whatsapp, Facebook was very liberal to UA protesters. "Winter on fire", Netflix, highly recommend. Of course times changing, and heard now Zello is affiliated with Russian government.

Yeah, but there are new options. I've seen Telegram and Briar both listed as options that the Hong Kong protesters have used. When a company sells out to the state, it's time to switch to another one. Briar, in particular, was made specifically for dissidents and protesters.

People should seriously consider Keybase with it's non-required use of a phone number and strong encryption in every chat. I'm not in any way affiliated with them but I just don't like Telegram suggested with it's unaudited homebrewn crypto and Russian roots.
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